re: Landon Collins will be at LSU

So being rational means I can't be a fan? I guess if you're a T-shirt fan and aren't capable of independent thought, sure. I'm not going to debate my 'fan-ness' with you, but suffice it to say that I hate Alabama as much or more than any of you

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every third party I've ever seen Alabama is a superior academic school to LSU. Princeton, US News, etc.

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there is basically no difference between lsu/bama. they are both middle of the road academic state schools. 5 stars recruits trying to get a better degree at bama is fricking hilarious.

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He wants to major in journalism. Bama has a great journalism school. Pretty simple. If he wanted to major in French or landscape architecture he should go to LSU. Why is it hard to acknowledge that bama is a generally better academic school?

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Because, generally speaking, they are not a better academic school.

When I was applying to different schools, Bama had much easier admission standards, even though neither are difficult to be admitted to.

Bama has better graduate programs. I'll admit that.

There's almost no difference between the two schools for undergrad. FACT.

He should have gone to Texas if he wanted an elite academic institution along with an elite football program.

He's going to Bama for a horse-faced white girl. End of Story.

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Recent study ... stated only Vandy was academically higher than LSU nationally.

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Wow, that is an insane statement. Most state colleges rank higher than LSU academically and for private colleges LSU's standing is even worse.

Two of the three most weighted factors in rating colleges are:

1. Freshman Retention
2. Graduation Rate

I began LSU in 2002, failed out in 2003 because I drank too much and was irresponsible and then re-enrolled in 2008 after going to the Army for 4 years and learning how to be responsible. I have been incredibly pissed at what has happened at LSU, because the same kids that are making the same mistakes I made are having their lowest test grades dropped and recieving massive highschoolesque grading curves to keep them in school.

In 2010, a professor was fired because her tests were too hard.

Kids are no longer allowed to use laptops in some classes, which is not indicative of real life because they must learn to avoid destractions like facebook on their own while in class. My point is that a degree used to be important because it represented someone with a certain level of mental maturity and responsibility more than anything. Now, it's nothing.

My point: It doesn't matter where your school ranks on these lists because it can just as easily be an indication of easier tests and grading methods than better learning.

Dozens of slots?

Slots?

Slits?

What a joke. You are a joke. bammer the school merely exists so that the rednecks can have a football team. They cheat and claim championships that didn't happen. That pretty much invalidates any list IMO....So take your list and shove it.

this is a dumb argument if we are talking about undergraduate degrees.

Undergrad degrees for the most part are equal from just about EVERY college. There are exceptions at the very top of the list...but that's about it.

An undergrad degree from Bama is no more valuable than one from LSU...unless you live in Louisiana or Alabama.

Why is this even an argument? It's stupid.

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DUDE there is no difference btw these 2 state schools....The are prob. some differences in certain studies, journ, Chem E, Landscape Art. etc....
But as a general rule they are rouighly the same Ed...even more imp... when you live and reside instate

You're saying that as a fan and I understand why you think that, but then why would every college ranking service say that there is a difference? Just to annoy you? LSU degree is more valuable in Louisiana, Alabama is more valuable almost everywhere else, save maybe Houston or a couple other places where Tiger alums end up pretty frequently. There is a difference. One stat that jumps out at me, for example, is that Alabama has a higher 4-year graduation rate than LSU and a higher 6-year graduation rate as well. That's one of the figures they use to calculate school rankings.

LSU is better at French and landscape architecture. Alabama is better at journalism, advertising, telecommunications, and public relations.

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It takes a special kind of tool to register and impersonate a LSU fan for 650+ posts and bring academics arguments to a sports message board.

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Not as bad as the W-2 argument that was taking place in another thread on the recruiting board.

Arguing about which one pays more income taxes on a recruiting board