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re: Just talked to a UT fan who had "inside info" about Legaux

Posted on 5/28/09 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

In 3 or 4 years when LSU is made up of 75% to 80% OOS kids and we go 7-5 or the like you all will remember the Crazy Cajun..Until then:


So it's only possible for a CFB team to have 10+ wins if it's made up of Louisiana players?

You may want to talk to Urban Meyer about that, I don't think he's aware of the rule.

quote:

I deal in reality


Funniest thing I've read all day.
Posted by tigerbill002
Member since May 2008
2316 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 10:42 pm to
Cajun....

I think everyone here that loves LSU also love LA players. Most would agree we need to lock down the state (meaning lock down the top talent). Outside of that top talent, evaluations are variable. That being said, you dont just offer every single LA kid with a little talent and ignore elite out of state recruits that have interest in LSU.

I mean you are seriously arguing that we should offer less out of state players for less talented in state players. Seriously. For every instate player that got away and is playing well, we have filled that spot with quality out of state players. I cant even argue with that rational and most here cant either because it makes absolutely no sense at all.

I guess your right, we should have not offered Shep. Those damn out of state players will be our down fall. We had plenty of good QBs instate, why even offer a kid like Shep.

Posted by Cajun61
Nawlins'
Member since Sep 2007
553 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 11:06 pm to
Please, spare me...Way to use a 5 Star recruit at an attempt to make a point...Nice..

Is this nice too?...

Kevin Anderson (LSU offer)
Wide Receiver
Lakewood (CA) Lakewood

Ht: 5-foot-10 (Event)
Wt: 170 lbs
Forty: 4.62 secs
LINK

Curtis Carter (Gotta go to LSU camp to make sure he is a evident fit, whatever the hell that means)
Athlete
Stonewall (LA) North De Soto

Ht: 5-foot-11
Wt: 170 lbs
Forty: 4.41 secs
Vertical: 37 inches
Class: 2010 (High School)
LINK

Oh, but Cajun have you seen Kevin Anderson's film?...Please!..Everyone know why we offered this kid...BS!



This post was edited on 5/28/09 at 11:09 pm
Posted by Cajun61
Nawlins'
Member since Sep 2007
553 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 11:16 pm to
Kevin Anderson is the #54 rated WR by everyone's favorite rank em' site...Know who is #52?

James Wright from Louisiana...(lol)

James Wright = man
Kevin Anderson = bench

Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68296 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 11:16 pm to
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I deal in reality...

In 3 or 4 years when LSU is made up of 75% to 80% OOS kids and we go 7-5 or the like you all will remember the Crazy Cajun..


How is this reality?
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37243 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 11:19 pm to
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In 3 or 4 years when LSU is made up of 75% to 80% OOS kids and we go 7-5 or the like you all will remember the Crazy Cajun..


wholly shite
Posted by Cajun61
Nawlins'
Member since Sep 2007
553 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 11:28 pm to
Curtis Carter = Forth Worth Nike Camp Hot 11..

A high school quarterback, Carter worked out at wide receiver on Sunday. His future position is likely either wide receiver or defensive back and there wasn't a better athlete in attendance. Defenders should be terrified if Carter gets the nod to run a fly route because he can absolutely motor. Carter ran a 4.40 40 at the Nike Combine on Saturday and put that speed to use in one-on-ones where no one could keep up with him vertically. That threat opened up his underneath routes as well and though he isn't a natural pass-catcher right now, his athleticism is too explosive for him not to be successful either out of the slot or as a defensive back. - Barton Simmons

and there wasn't a better athlete in attendance..

This post was edited on 5/28/09 at 11:37 pm
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 11:42 pm to
quote:


Kevin Anderson (LSU offer)
Wide Receiver
Lakewood (CA) Lakewood

Ht: 5-foot-10 (Event)
Wt: 170 lbs
Forty: 4.62 secs
LINK

Curtis Carter (Gotta go to LSU camp to make sure he is a evident fit, whatever the hell that means)
Athlete
Stonewall (LA) North De Soto

Ht: 5-foot-11
Wt: 170 lbs
Forty: 4.41 secs
Vertical: 37 inches
Class: 2010 (High School)
LINK


Now we are playing ball. I'll stop with the personal attacks and discuss you like a gentleman if you would like to continue posting arguments at this caliber.

With that being said, 1) it took you 7 pages to finally get to a legitimate point. 2) that is one instance in which you are correct out of the freight train of instances given supporting Miles' policy.

Offering Kevin Anderson seems to be an attempt at getting a package deal on Scroggins. This is something I believe that LSU should certainly be above. However there are several explanations for this.

1) Shepard really hasn't worked out at QB and we realize that we badly need a solid QB in this class. Our arms are severely tied because every other coach is throwing the "they just took the number 1 QB in the last class" card every time we get in a battle for a recruit. Thus, we have to resort to uncharacteristic tactics.

2) Anderson was actually honest with his 40 time, unlike every other WR that runs a 4.4 no matter how slow they are. He may be really fast, but just not be that great in the 40. We are looking for a speedy slot receiver in this class and the coaches may have seen something while evaluating him. Morris Claiborne was a 3* and I think everyone on this board agree that he was highly underrated.

3) Les realizes that Louisiana players who aren't good enough to see the field at LSU will probably stay to complete their degree instead of transferring to another school. This is really a waste of a scholarship for 4-5 years instead of 1-2 years on an OOS player. That's why Les slow plays all of the in state kids that he's not sure about and uses them as back ups. Some times it back fires, but the rewards outweigh the consequences.

4) Les Miles hates Louisiana and LSU. He knows that Louisiana player will win more games because we were raised drinking Tobasco from our mother's teet. He's planning on destroying LSU's football team by taking highly ranked out of state players who, like mere mortals, nursed on milk as young children. Every night, he takes out his poster of the big house and beats off.


You can choose.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 11:43 pm to
IS this shite really still going on?!
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

he isn't a natural pass-catcher


Trindon Holiday was 10x faster than Carter, but "not a natural pass catcher". I would say that's a pretty huge chink in his armor.

The writers are paid to be sensationalist. Nobody is going to interview with them if they dog all of the players.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
31898 posts
Posted on 5/29/09 at 12:05 am to
quote:

In 3 or 4 years when LSU is made up of 75% to 80% OOS kids and we go 7-5 or the like you all will remember the Crazy Cajun..


Do you really think that out of state players were to blame for the 8-5 season?

As long as LSU gets 9 of the top 12 recruits in-state and then takes top talent from the rest of the region, they will be in great shape. LSU went 8-5 because of inexperienced QB play and awful coaching from 2 guys who were in over their heads.

Colt David, Ciron Black, Brandon LaFell, Joseph Barksdale, Brett Helms, Perry Riley, and Patrick Peterson were not why LSU went 8-5

I won't argue with you about Jarrett Lee though

You also keep mentioning these marginal recruits who were given offers from LSU. Look at 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009 and name the marginal out of state guys who were taken. There are very few.

Not every offer is a committable offer.
Posted by tigerbill002
Member since May 2008
2316 posts
Posted on 5/29/09 at 12:06 am to
Cajun 61...

According to Scout, Justin Hunter is the #58 WR. If youve seen his latest film you would understand why he is about to make a huge jump in the next evals. Evaluations by these sites arent always spot on and they make mistakes. Keep that in mind.

I trust the coaches can evaluate the talent that they feel will work best at LSU. I really dont know how good Kevin Anderson is. James Wright may be better than other prospects and maybe deserves an offer, no argument there. But as a measuring stick I will only compare committed players or signed players, not those with or without offers. Not all offers are the same. Not every offer is committable.

I also dont know how many WR we will take or who they plan on switching to other positions. But say we only take 3. Right now I would keep Justin Hunter and Mike Davis over James Wright. If we only add a 3rd you know its Trevon Reed if we can get him. So in the end we may snub Wright, but we filled that void with much better talent IMO.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30379 posts
Posted on 5/29/09 at 9:01 am to
quote:

You know I think I'm done...

quote:

Good day and good cher!


Please stop going on about how many poor Louisiana boys LSU is screwing over.

You are not a real fan of The LSU Fighting Tigers any more. You have proven you have a some knowledge about Louisiana high school football and a subscription to a recruiting site but really have little knowledge about recruiting.

You are like Rocketbraves when it comes to being a spreader of negativity on this recruiting board.

You seem to be too close to the situation. Your argument leads me to believe either you or an immediate family member was not offered by LSU so now you hate Les Miles and his recruiting strategies. Maybe you are personal friends with Bebe or Frank Wilson.

You are to the point of pulling against the team you claim to be a fan of. You wish for LSU failure because you think it will prove your argument. In the future you will be on here telling us how great our boys are doing for some other school. You will relish in the failure of any OOS recruits.

Most of us want what is best for LSU. We all want the best players for winning national championships. Every coaching staff will make some mistakes in recruiting, but this staff has recruited as well as any in the country. Only someone with clouded judgement would choose to not trust they will continue to do a great job.

Please go post on a McNeese/Nichols/ULL or just some damn Louisiana high school site.

Pull your head out of your arse and keep your word.
"Good day and good cher" should have meant you were done.

This post was edited on 5/29/09 at 9:02 am
Posted by GatorTrunk
City Point, VA via Luna, LA
Member since Jul 2008
3332 posts
Posted on 5/29/09 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Tennessee establishing a pipeline to LA,


They will only get the player LSU does not offer!
The thing about UT being good is that they will pull players from Alabama and Florida.
Posted by Cajun61
Nawlins'
Member since Sep 2007
553 posts
Posted on 5/29/09 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Do you really think that out of state players were to blame for the 8-5 season?


Nope, not this past year anyways, but it's the direction we are headed...

Let me ask you...

Why haven't Reed, Allen, Vinson and Fobbs committed yet?

Posted by Cajun61
Nawlins'
Member since Sep 2007
553 posts
Posted on 5/29/09 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

You seem to be too close to the situation


The one and only point you had in your speech...

You damn right I'm close to the situation and have been for quite some time...I'm not a transplant or some little kiddy from Tennessee hanging out...I'm Louisiana-can you follow that?

If you don't like my opinions on Les Miles recruiting, fine...BUT, don't pretend to know me or my situation because you disagree...Can you dig what I'm saying?
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30379 posts
Posted on 5/29/09 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

You damn right I'm close to the situation


I was right then, this is personal with you and that is what has clouded your judgement.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
31898 posts
Posted on 5/29/09 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

Why haven't Reed, Allen, Vinson and Fobbs committed yet?


Probably for the same reason that Mingo, Randle, and dozens of Rivals 250 players hadn't committed yet at this point last year. They want to go on free visits, conduct interviews with the press, announce their college decision in front of fans at a high school all-star game, or on ESPNU, etc.

It doesn't matter when the guys commit. Since there is no early signing period, all of these guys will fax their LOIs on the same afternoon in February.
This post was edited on 5/29/09 at 12:09 pm
Posted by joechristoppher77
Ruston
Member since Apr 2006
5319 posts
Posted on 5/29/09 at 12:09 pm to
If you have any knowledge in you at all, you'y know the answer to your own question
Posted by Cajun61
Nawlins'
Member since Sep 2007
553 posts
Posted on 5/29/09 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Probably for the same reason that Mingo, Randle


Yep, you are probably right...The exact same reasons to be honest!
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