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re: does LSU miss Earl Lane?

Posted on 7/26/09 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by flucobaseball
VA
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 5:37 pm to
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no one complained when we won a national championship with lane as d-line coach


Not true! Many still felt our DL could have done better.
Posted by Larry Hollins
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 5:40 pm to
miles got lane from south florida. lane had been there 9 years and helped start the football program. you don't go to south florida looking for one of the top coaches in the country. you go there looking for a top recruiter in the south florida area

miles got what he was looking for, a top recruiter. let him recruit, let someone else (haley) coach
Posted by flucobaseball
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 5:45 pm to
Would a recruit not feel more wanted if he was being recruited by someone who was actually a coach?
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 5:50 pm to
Who needs Florida recruits when we are finishing 4th on kids from North Carolina now?!!!!! WAR BIG DON YANO!!
Posted by Thoreauxbred
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 9:38 pm to
until Brick lures some DL talent to Baton Rouge I'll be skeptical of him...LSU is supposed to be D-Line U and this is the first time in a long time that I can remember not having any major DL recruits seriously considering us

there's no excuse for that
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 9:42 pm to
who is on rasco and Anthony Johnson? I wonder if he will be their main recruiter.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 9:45 pm to
Brick played a pretty large role in getting Sam Montgomery. Besides, LSU signed 5 freshman and one Juco last year so defensive line is not a big priority. They got an early commitment from the only big name D-lineman in the state this year, and that's good enough for me.

It's not like they've gotten kids from VA and NC in the past. The D-line University line resulted from LA kids mostly: Dorsey, Tyson Jackson, Lavalais, Spears, Hill, Pittman, Favorite, Charles Alexander, and Kyle Williams were all LA players.
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 9:50 pm to
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there's no excuse for that


Maybe the coach is a bad recruiter, but the 3 top 10, attheir position, Dlinemmen we signed last year has to have some effect on that
Posted by cardee2003
Baton Rouge/Tacoma,WA
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 9:54 pm to
I think he will be greatly missed as far as recuiting , he consistly produced NFL lineman Haley has not done that for LSU yet
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:02 pm to
Haley's been here for six months and he was instrumental in getting Sam Montgomery. What more is he supposed to do? He hasn't even coached a game yet.
Posted by Thoreauxbred
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:26 pm to
well, he's already up against the best DL recruiter in the country who has gotten Johnson's committment

Not saying he can't be turned, but we're already behind for next year after having a terrible DL recruiting class projected this year

On top of that, Muschamp has gained a pretty big reputation and has a lot of young energy...Rasco is fond of Texas already and they are projected to have a big season and could play for a National Title

things could get bad in that area if Brick don't step it up

Posted by Thoreauxbred
Member since Jul 2009
285 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:30 pm to
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Brick played a pretty large role in getting Sam Montgomery


the facts are that Lane had him all over LSU well before Brick showed up

no doubt about it, Lane gets the most credit for Sam's recruitment

quote:

defensive line is not a big priority


bullshite. it is almost every year

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The D-line University line resulted from LA kids mostly


RJF was a helluva git

Lane also helped with many other non-DLs when it came to recruiting FL
Posted by Thoreauxbred
Member since Jul 2009
285 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

Brick played a pretty large role in getting Sam Montgomery


the facts are that Lane had him all over LSU well before Brick showed up

no doubt about it, Lane gets the most credit for Sam's recruitment

quote:

defensive line is not a big priority


bullshite. it is almost every year

quote:

The D-line University line resulted from LA kids mostly


RJF was a helluva git

Lane also helped with many other non-DLs when it came to recruiting FL
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:38 pm to
Honestly, you are searching for things to complain about. I just named 8 D-linemen who all came from Louisiana, and your counter is RJF, a guy who took all of last season off and was academically ineligible for all but 2 games as a redshirt sophomore. So that is a whopping one player, who didn't really do much anyways.

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bullshite. it is almost every year


Well, the team signed 1 receiver, 1 true running back, and 1 projected athlete to play corner. Loston was the only safety in the class. Meanwhile LSU signed five freshman to play D-line and a juco, so yeah there were significantly bigger priorities.

As for Anthony Johnson, Lane wouldn't have made a difference. It's all Frank Wilson and that is the worst kept secret in SEC recruiting right now.

What else could Brick do when it comes to recruiting? LSU got the one desirable player in-state. Byran Jones also well regarded, but he does not hold an offer yet.
This post was edited on 7/26/09 at 10:40 pm
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:47 pm to
the D-Line sucked after S&C GA Jimmy Brumbaugh went to LaTech to be an asst coach to Dooley

LINK

rumor has it Brumbaugh did a lot of technique and film work with the guys off duty
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 11:03 pm to
I'm not exactly sure of the roles Lane or Haley played in the recruitment of Montgomery. I assume they both contributed to getting him to LSU. But the person who sealed the deal in getting Montgomery to Baton Rouge was in fact Les Miles. In an article I read concerning Montgomery's signing with LSU, the author interviewed his mother and she recounted in detail when her son decided where he would play college football. According to her, he was in fact on the fence right up until the end when all the coaches flew into Carolina and made their last pitches to him. She said just the three of them, she, Sam, and Les, sat and talked for some time and Les told him why he should come to LSU. As Les talked, she said she watched Sam closely and could practically see his eyes light up. Right after Les was gone, she turned to Sam and said, "You're going to LSU, aren't you?" and he replied, "Yes I am."

The D-line has been such a source of strength for LSU for so many years. I think this is why so much attention has been put on Brick, and rightly so. How he performs as an assistant is integral to our continued success. We are watching closely.
Posted by Larry Hollins
Member since Jul 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 7/27/09 at 9:13 am to
the bigger point is that when you dismiss lane you are walking away from miami and south florida. this is the best talent area in the country.

lane should get more credit as a "recruiter".
all of that credit goes to porter. porter is really good but he largely recruits LA. and Texas
thats a "lot" easier sell than recruiting "miami"
Posted by Thoreauxbred
Member since Jul 2009
285 posts
Posted on 7/27/09 at 9:23 am to
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the bigger point is that when you dismiss lane you are walking away from miami and south florida. this is the best talent area in the country.


exactly

we'll see how we are able to sustain recruiting in that state, which is an important state if we want to continue to have top classes and recruiting prowess

McCarthy has done a pretty fair job in FL the last couple of years and has gotten very close on some major steals...but we need to start seeing him close on some now

FL is a state you have to have someone on the staff who can recruit it effectively...it's an absolute must
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 7/27/09 at 9:25 am to
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the bigger point is that when you dismiss lane you are walking away from miami and south florida. this is the best talent area in the country.


Yeah, because McCarthy and Porter have never signed a kid from FL.

The guy was a good recruiter, but was a serious liability as a coach. Thus, he was canned. End of story.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 7/27/09 at 9:26 am to
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Not saying he can't be turned, but we're already behind for next year after having a terrible DL recruiting class projected this year

On top of that, Muschamp has gained a pretty big reputation and has a lot of young energy...Rasco is fond of Texas already and they are projected to have a big season and could play for a National Title

things could get bad in that area if Brick don't step it up


WE'RE DOOMED!!!!!!
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