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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:37 am to
Posted by DieDaily
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:37 am to
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The PS1 games are the only ones that require extra work though right?
Any CD based system could require fiddling with the files a bit because of the variation in how those files are distributed. This includes Sega CD, Turbo CD, and PS1 games.

Depending on the MAME roms you have, extra work could be required for those but it's often better to just try and find another copy of the rom since MAME roms also have their own version, though this version number is often not apparent.

But generally speaking, yes. All of the other systems should mostly be a straight up copy to their respective "roms" folder.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:31 am to
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Even N64 and MAME are just copy and paste?


N64 should just be copy and paste. I haven't messed around with N64 games because their performance on the Pi 3 is hit or miss.

MAME games for the most part are copy & paste. You'll need the correct BIOS file for each game. And some arcade games require an additional CHD file (killer instinct, some of the later street fighter games, Marvel vs Capcom are some of the popular arcade games that need a CHD file). Emuparadise does a good job of linking any additional files needed - they'll be listed directly under the game download link.

And there are multiple arcade emulators available to choose from. So you need to make sure the arcade rom is being run by the correct emulator. For me, this was just trial and error. Play the rom in one emulator and if it didn't work, try the next one and so on until I found the match. If none of the emulators worked, delete that game rom and DL a different version of it and then try again.

There is actually a precise way to determine which arcade rom goes to which emulator: each emulator has a specific code. Each arcade rom has a specific code. You just have to match the roms with the emulator that runs the same exact code. But finding out which code the roms are running with seems to be a pain in the arse, so I feel my trial and error way is a lot less hassle.
Posted by DieDaily
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:47 am to
Also, don't forget about the official wiki, which the community maintains. It has the most accurate information on how to get games working for each system. The majority of what I've learned has come from it.

Playstation 1
Nintendo 64
MAME
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:51 am to
Yeah, I normally look at that, but I also like keeping this thread alive and you two on your toes but thanks for all the info.

Have all my NES, SNES and Genesis games downloaded. Just need to do PS1 (which may be the most time consuming), MAME and N64 games and then start adding them on

I do have a programming question and github seems to just list the things out. I may want to overclock my 3 later on to optimize the N64 and have the heatsinks already on it that came in that CanaKit.

I went to this:
LINK

and it shows this in the blue box:
quote:

#Overclock Settings
arm_freq=1300
gpu_freq=500
sdram_freq=500
over_voltage=6
v3d_freq=525


I know to hit F4 to bring up the command prompt, but how do I go about getting to this part or am I off entirely?
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 10:06 am
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:07 am to
Personally for arcade games, I found I was able to get all mid 90's games and earlier to run pretty easily. I have had issues running some mid 90's to more recent games though.

Off the top of my head, these are some of the arcade games I have running without issue:
80's list:
Galaga
Centipede
Track & field

These are the 80's bowling alley games I used to tear up. I actually couldn't get pole position to run properly which is disappointing.

Then my late 80s - mid 90s set:
TMNT 1 & 2
The Simpsons
WWF Wrestlefest
Sunset Riders
Xmen
SF II (the original version - couldn't get the turbo or championship versions to run)
Smash TV
Metal Slug 1 through 5
MK II
NBA Jam

I have quite a few more, just drawing a blank right now. But just an example of games that run successfully if you were considering any of these.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:09 am to
I haven't overclocked and really don't plan to, so I cant answer that one.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:10 am to
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I haven't overclocked and really don't plan to, so I cant answer that one.


I'm not sure that I will just because of the dangers with it and the fact that I may be getting a Switch in two months so that would be my N64 fix

quote:

WWF Wrestlefest


My #1 arcade game on my list Looking back I probably spent at least $50 on this game alone
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 10:12 am
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:18 am to
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My #1 arcade game on my list Looking back I probably spent at least $50 on this game alone


My absolute favorite arcade game of all time! I still love it - I sneak in a quick royal rumble whenever I can, like when I am waiting for the ol lady to finish getting ready

I remember I couldn't get emuparadise's version of this to run. I DL'd it from CoolRom.com and that one worked fine.
Posted by DieDaily
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:00 am to
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I may want to overclock my 3 later
I've tried overclocking a RP 3 with the overclocking tool that comes with Retropie and it gave me a message that overclocking was not available for the 3, which is confirmed by this thread.

However, that apparently is just the case for the tool mentioned above. You can manually adjust clock settings but I gave up on that once I couldn't make my changes easily. I may revisit it but I haven't found a reason to overclock.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:53 am to
So can you select which emulator you want a MAME to run on or is there a default one pre-selected that you have to go in and change an option manually?
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:00 pm to
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You need PS1 metal gear solid

I wanted to but wasn't sure how the two disk games work. Do I just get both?
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:02 pm to
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I wanted to but wasn't sure how the two disk games work. Do I just get both?


Yes, you'll see a link on whatever site you use for disc 1 and disc 2. Same for all the Final Fantasy and whatnot.

Then the instructions for the PS1 games are on the previous page
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:37 pm to
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So can you select which emulator you want a MAME to run on or is there a default one pre-selected that you have to go in and change an option manually?


Drop them in the "Arcade" folder in the list of emulators. When you reboot, "arcade" will be an option available along with the other emulators and all of your arcade roms will be in it. Arcade defaults to a specific emulator (forget which one), but when you launch the rom hit the "A" button (I think) while the game is booting and a list of options will pop up. In those options you can select which arcade emulator you want to run that specific rom on and it will save.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:41 pm to
Ah okay cool. Might have to cheat on my main goal of getting everything set up first and go download Wrestlefest first.

Also, I think I'm getting more accustomed to leaving the USA at the end of my games the more games I download
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Klark Kent
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:26 am to
ugh, been reading this thread too much.

temptation was real. so before me and my fiance join bank accounts this weekend i pulled the trigger. purchased this: LINK + 32GB SanDisk SD Card.

you bastards.


mainly i just really want to make my friends back home jelly that i have all the NES, SNES, N64, and Sega Genesis ROMS.
Posted by Klark Kent
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:30 am to
and now i have questions:

- i know it comes with HDMI cord, so obviously it plays on newer televisions. but full screen?
- how many NES, SNES, N64 ROMS will I be able to get on a 32GB SD Card?
- the RetroPi pretty easy to use GUI once setup?
- so I'll also be able to install KODI on this as well, so I could really replace my GBox in the living room with this?
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15498 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:39 am to
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how many NES, SNES, N64 ROMS will I be able to get on a 32GB SD Card?


All of them easily, the entire SNES and NES library isn't even a gig from what I remember.

N64 emulation doesn't run real well on the pi though. Most games will be unplayable. The simpler graphic games will work for the most part.

There is a recalbox and kodi package out there that I like better than retropi.

This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 7:44 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66718 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:00 am to
damn. i was really looking forward to having an N64 emulator. they are buggy? unplayable? how bad are we talking about?
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5301 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:00 am to
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i know it comes with HDMI cord, so obviously it plays on newer televisions. but full screen?
You have 10-15 resolutions to choose from, including full screen. Most forums suggest 4:3 for the best picture, which will put black borders around the game if you're using a big tv. But you can also fill these black borders with different pictures and designs using overlays, so it doesnt have to be a big eye sore if you dont want to look at black borders

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how many NES, SNES, N64 ROMS will I be able to get on a 32GB SD Card?
The entire NES/SNES/Genesis USA library combined is under 2 GB (might even be under 1 GB). They dont take up any space. Not sure on N64 as I havent loaded any of those games. I have the entire US library of NES/SNES/Genesis, about 10 atari 2600 games, about 10 ps one games and 25-30 arcade games loaded and still have about 10 GB left on my 32GB card. Thats almost 1200 games taking up only 2/3rds of a 32 GB card. Disc games take up a lot of space though, so you'd have to keep PS One games and other disc consoles to a minimum with a 32 GB card

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- the RetroPi pretty easy to use GUI once setup?
everything is easy once setup. The retropie forum is really active. A quick google/youtube search will get you directions for almost anything you want to do within retropie once it is set up.

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so I'll also be able to install KODI on this as well, so I could really replace my GBox in the living room with this?
Cant answer this one
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5301 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:05 am to
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as really looking forward to having an N64 emulator. they are buggy? unplayable? how bad are we talking about?


Different games are hit or miss. It'll be just trial and error to determine which ones play. It is suggested to overclock your system in order to play N64 games though which can shorten the life of your raspberry due to overheating. A lot of users add fans to their setup in order to overclock without much worry. There is a youtube video about how to get some N64 games to play accurately. I havent fooled with those games though, so cant be more specific.
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