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Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:50 pm to emboslice
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Can you fix your second link? TIA
Done. Its just the abstract on the NCBI site. I can't get to the full text without being a member of the academy.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:46 pm to thibtigerfan
Your right fruit isn't unhealthy but it sure as hell Can be a big factor in weight gain.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:49 pm to lsu777
How many people do you know gaining weight where eating too much fruit is REALLY the problem, though? It's usually not the apples and bananas putting them over
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:57 pm to emboslice
No shite and it's usually not meat either. It's all the other vegetarian dishes like pasta, pies, and cake.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 10:05 am to Junky
Junky please list the bioavailability ratings of meat and various plant protein sources and explain how it is impossible to get enough protein and essential amino acids on a plant based diet. Base this on the reccomended daily allowance for protein.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 5:55 pm to mouton
I've already explained it. You can't explain the differences in digesting the cellulose (in which the protein is located) between a cow or horse compared to a human. We are not as efficient and do not receive the same amount as they would.
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:08 pm to Zappas Stache
I'll get back to you, because I'm out of town. But to preface, the first article you posted link a study, that study's first cite was the carbon and nitrogen ratio study I posted. The study she first cited came to the conclusion that earlier chimp like ancestors ate plants, but homo erectus was the lowest...
as for the second study. Isotopic evidence for dietary variability in the early hominin Paranthropus robustus.
Paranthropus_robustus is not a dang human / homo erectus
Edit: drunk and meant homo sapien
as for the second study. Isotopic evidence for dietary variability in the early hominin Paranthropus robustus.
Paranthropus_robustus is not a dang human / homo erectus
Edit: drunk and meant homo sapien
This post was edited on 1/15/17 at 8:21 am
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:16 pm to Junky
quote:
I've already explained it. You can't explain the differences in digesting the cellulose (in which the protein is located) between a cow or horse compared to a human. We are not as efficient and do not receive the same amount as they would.
No you haven't . You explained that plant proteins are not as bioavailale as other proteins. Please explain how it is physically impossible to get the rda of protein from a plant based diet based on the bioavailability index.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:33 pm to mouton
Bioavailability
Good enough?
quote:
By definition, when a medication is administered intravenously, its bioavailability is 100%.[1] However, when a medication is administered via other routes (such as orally), its bioavailability generallyTH[›] decreases (due to incomplete absorption and first-pass metabolism) or may vary from patient to patient. Bioavailability is one of the essential tools in pharmacokinetics, as bioavailability must be considered when calculating dosages for non-intravenous routes of administration.
Good enough?
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:44 pm to Junky
Really?
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:46 pm to Junky
I take it you are the type of person who will not admit you are wrong no matter what.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:17 pm to mouton
quote:Or to just agree to disagree
the type of person who will not admit you are wrong no matter what.
ahh, the ego... This is why I try not to engage in these conversations too often because it's exhausting going back and forth with someone who already has their mind set they are living the "right" way . Who cares, thank goodness for diversity because what a boring place this would be without it.
(Not just talking about you J man - many on this board and beyond)
Junky has been a little less aggressive the past couple of pages, but some vegetarian must've reallllly broken his heart back in the 70s
Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:38 pm to Breesus
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You can't.
Nature made three kinds of animals:
Carnivore
Omnivore
Herbivore
Their bodies act differently and process differently.
Humans are omnivores. We have both sharp teeth and flat teeth.
You need both.
There is not one advantage for going vegetarian.
Cut out complex carbs and sugars and highly processed foods and fried foods, yes. But no reason to cut out all meat.
Lean beef, chicken, turkey, pork, etc.. Is all good for you.
Agreed. I tried the health food stores Braggs apple cider vinegar in my salads and it really helps with so much. Eating more fruits n veggies, making fruit and kale nutribullet drinks- and cutting back on all fast food, fried foods, carbs, sugars is the key.
Maybe Genuine would benefit better from starting to eat more Chinese beef, seafood, chicken, mostly fish and Thai stir fry--- types of home made food.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:42 pm to cajunangelle
Just take em' out and gum the meat... 
Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:48 pm to Ole Geauxt
you are not funny. I just had my first ever root canals times two and then extraction and I may be getting falsies soon. I can't wait.Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:51 pm to cajunangelle
Don't use that toof cement stuff, just use Elmers. They'll hang long enough for a hamburger and fries, plus you get to pull those strips off your gums.. I thought you already wore falsies on Satree nights?!?! 
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 1/14/17 at 9:11 pm to Ole Geauxt
Posted on 1/14/17 at 10:32 pm to mouton
So I prove bioavailability doesn't mean what you thought...and that is your response.
Got it. Later boss.
Got it. Later boss.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:08 pm to Junky
Right..... So bioavailability in reference to protein does not mean it's biological value or digestability?
You made an absolutely rediculous statement and once called out on it refuse to admit you are wrong.
Let's try again using a different term then. Comparing the biological value/digestability of animal and plant proteins explain how it is physically impossible to consume enough plant protein to reach your recommended daily allowance.
You made an absolutely rediculous statement and once called out on it refuse to admit you are wrong.
Let's try again using a different term then. Comparing the biological value/digestability of animal and plant proteins explain how it is physically impossible to consume enough plant protein to reach your recommended daily allowance.
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