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re: Is the Moscow Mule the "it" drink of the summer?

Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by kciDAtaE
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:11 pm to
Maybe summer of 2015...
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:27 pm to
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Why is this the default accusation against anything that trends?


Because the hipster culture, which has somewhat engulfed other niche cultures, at least in colloquial use and definition, tends to lead the way in social trends, especially when it is a retread of an older trend.

I was drinking Mules as pregame for floating the river way before I even heard the term hipster, but its renaissance as a popular summer beverage is undeniable.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:05 pm to
Beautifully stated
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:19 pm to
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Tom Collins and Negronis seem to be rising in popularity as well.


Seeing a good bit of Aperol Spritz lately too.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:22 pm to
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Because the hipster culture, which has somewhat engulfed other niche cultures, at least in colloquial use and definition, tends to lead the way in social trends, especially when it is a retread of an older trend.


Yes, the term "hipster" has generally taken over as a descriptive phrase for many youth subcultures. I get that. Although, especially around these parts, it tends to be used in a pejorative manner.

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I was drinking Mules as pregame for floating the river way before I even heard the term hipster, but its renaissance as a popular summer beverage is undeniable.


But as I said earlier, the recent surge in its popularity, at least in my experience, stemmed from its adoption by what would generally be referred to as the Yuppie or DINK crowd, which is pretty distinct from the hipster crowd.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:32 pm to
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But as I said earlier, the recent surge in its popularity, at least in my experience, stemmed from its adoption by what would generally be referred to as the Yuppie or DINK crowd, which is pretty distinct from the hipster crowd.


You didn't say that earlier, but that would make more sense than what you did say, which was too regional to be a reasonable source of a national trend.

Either way, Yuppies don't set trends like hipsters. And DINKS don't even really describe a specific type of person, but rather a specific financial position. Do you really think there aren't a ton of DINK hipsters? I'd argue that's a huge portion of the DINK crowd.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:54 pm to
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You didn't say that earlier, but that would make more sense than what you did say, which was too regional to be a reasonable source of a national trend.


Up here, those terms generally are interchangeable. Moreover, the fact that the drink surged in popularity up here before most other areas would support my assertion. This thread is even further evidence of that. And LOL at you saying that the NYC area is "too regional to be a reasonable source of a national trend". LOL. Think about what you just said.

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Either way, Yuppies don't set trends like hipsters.


Never said they did.

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And DINKS don't even really describe a specific type of person, but rather a specific financial position.


It's a moniker for a generalized subculture.

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Do you really think there aren't a ton of DINK hipsters?


A ton? Probably not.

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I'd argue that's a huge portion of the DINK crowd.


I wouldn't. But perhaps we're defining the term differently.







Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:55 pm to
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What about a mojito would make you feel gay?


Maybe Family Guy? There is an episode of Family Guy where Brian orders a mojito and looks at the camera and says, "What? I don't think it's a gay drink"
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:16 pm to
I thought about refuting your post, but then I realized I don't care.

Moscow Mules were brought back by people in the Hampton's, specifically the yuppies and those that are married but don't have any children. No supporting evidence required.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 4:17 pm
Posted by GEAUXT
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:25 pm to
Dark and stormy is my summer drink
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:27 pm to
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I thought about refuting your post, but then I realized I don't care.



You obviously do. You're butt-hurt for some odd reason.

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Moscow Mules were brought back by people in the Hampton's, specifically the yuppies and those that are married but don't have any children. No supporting evidence required.


As opposed to your evidence about these omnipresent Hipsters that are everywhere and do nothing but resurrect social trends?

What part of my "anecdote" and "in my experience" comments do you not understand?

What's funny about your characterization is that you're doing nothing but lending credence to an earlier assertion that "hipster" is a useless phrase applied to any social group that differs from the "good ole boy" group. Is anyone that doesn't wear white ankle-length socks with white sneakers, khaki cargo shorts and an LSU T-shirt and baseball cap a hipster?

This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 4:30 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:35 pm to
I don't care about the origin of the resurrection of the Moscow Mule. You definitely do. No hard feelings.


You took offense to a bunch of posts in this thread, including hipsters getting "blamed" for trends, a family guy reference to mojitos being a gay drink, and me questioning your claim as fact that the mule came back in your neck of the woods. You admitted to being cranky, you later agreed with my explanation for why hipsters get the credit for social trends, and of course, you called me butt hurt for backing away from an aspect of the argument I didn't care about in the first place.

But yes, you're the reasonable one and I'm the butt hurt one.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:55 pm to
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I don't care about the origin of the resurrection of the Moscow Mule.


Yes. Clearly, your post history in this thread supports that assertion.


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You took offense to a bunch of posts in this thread


Only in jest.

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a family guy reference to mojitos being a gay drink,


Sorry. I didn't catch the reference. I haven't watched the show in years. I just thought it funny that someone would be insecure about ordering it. It's not like it's a pink colored drink with an umbrella.

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your claim as fact that the mule came back in your neck of the woods.


I don't know if it did or not. It was certainly more of a trend up here years ago. Again, "anecdote" and "in my estimation". I really shouldn't have to explain these caveats to a reasonable adult. I will, however, LOL at your assertion that the NYC area is too regional to start any national trend. That's a hoot.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:01 pm to
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Yes. Clearly, your post history in this thread supports that assertion.


Brother, my history in this thread started with explaining why people jump to hipsters when something new happens. And I said it in the most complimentary way out of anyone in this thread. It was never about the Moscow Mule thing. Considering your frat boy, cargo short tantrum, we probably are in violent agreement and you're just too touchy or "cranky" to realize it.

Like I said, I bow out of the mule talk, and I don't need any evidence for your claims. That wasn't my angle in this thread.

I'm drinking beer now, so I'm definitely outta this one.
Posted by offshoreangler
713, Texas
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:13 pm to
Welcome to 2015.

Drink Kentucky Mules....you'll won't be thought of as a Nance by your bartender.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:17 pm to
It's a darn fine cocktail. I've been drinking them for some years now, but with gin rather than vodka, same as I do for bloody marys. I like gin.
Posted by webstew
B-city
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:08 pm to
Gin Gin Mule is a refreshing drink.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:22 pm to
In 2013, the Wall Street Journal ran an article about how "Fans Are Copping the Costly Copper Mugs of the Cocktail-of-the-Moment". Bar patrons were stealing them, causing bars to require deposits, licenses, or the like to get one.

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I admit it, I started drinking them after I saw that article.

Not sure what got me on Negronis about that same time, but I think it was a look back at that satirical Hustler ad for Campari that led to Larry Flynt beating Jerry Falwell in the Supreme Court.

Caipirinhas have been trendy lately too. The weather is getting right for one.
Posted by Soul Gleaux
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

the "it" drink of the summer?


Pimm's Cup
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 3:14 am to
Irish/Dublin Mule > Moscow Mule
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