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Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:20 am to
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:20 am to
rather than using the carafa III and the roasted barley I would just substitute the roasted barley for the carafa III
Make up the difference with more base or chocolate malt

*I've never made a good stout, so take that FWIW
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 9:22 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:37 am to
quote:

rather than using the carafa III and the roasted barley I would just substitute the roasted barley for the carafa III


Well i did that last time. And to frat, i was hoping my lower mash temp would makeup for the residual sweetness, but i may reduce my 120l amount. And carafa amount is only 5.7% compared to the whole of the recipe.
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 9:38 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:40 am to
Alright, so i'm lowering my caramel malt to 3%, and making up the difference in maris otter.

What about the 12% flaked oats? I raised it by 3% this time to give it some more mouthfeel.
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 9:41 am
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:43 am to
Personally, I'd lower the roasted barley a touch. But you may have enough flaked oats to smooth it out. It all depends on what you're looking for in a stout. I prefer smoother finishing stouts, but many like big roasty and bitter finishing stouts.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:45 am to
quote:

I prefer smoother finishing stouts, but many like big roasty and bitter finishing stouts.


I want it smooth and slightly roasty. I will probably adjust down being my first iteration with roasted barley in this stout.

I think you had some last year. I liked it, but felt it needed something more.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:48 am to
So as it stands right now

68% maris otter
12% flaked oats
7% chocolate malt
6% de-bittered carafa 3
4% Roasted barley
3% caramel 120l
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52784 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:52 am to
Next question. I think last year i racked my stout onto the coffee in a secondary. Seeing as i'm going away from secondarying things, i'm wondering if i should just pour in the cold brewed coffee in the primary after fermentation, or wait and pour it into the bottling bucket, just before bottling.

The only reason i'm concerned with the bottling bucket, would be ensuring the coffee is well mixed with the wort.

Primary is probably easier, just will add 5 days or so before bottling.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:54 am to
add it into the bucket then rack the beer into the bucket and it will be mixed in well just like your priming sugar
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 10:14 am to
quote:

So as it stands right now

68% maris otter
12% flaked oats
7% chocolate malt
6% de-bittered carafa 3
4% Roasted barley
3% caramel 120l


Much like LST, I've only brewed one stout that I was thrilled with, but I'll throw this out there for your consideration.

If you look at the last 8 stouts in Oatmeal and RIS that have won gold at NHC this is the break down of their malts percentages. This is kind of designing great beers approach I'll take some times.

Russian Imperial (6 Winners)
Base Malt 84%
Crystal Malts 5.5%
Chocolate Malts (chocolate, pale choc) 4.5%
Roasted Malts (black malt, special roast, roasted barley) 5%
Flaked Grains 1%*

Oatmeal Stout (2 Winners)
Base Malt 70.5%
Crystal Malts 10%
Chocolate Malts (chocolate, pale choc) 4.5%
Roasted Malts (black malt, special roast, roasted barley) 7%
Flaked Grains 8%

*Due to small sample size, this was thrown off by one brewer who used 6% flaked barley.
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 10:16 am
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 9/26/15 at 3:04 pm to
Going big with this Saison and pushing my setup to the max!

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 9/26/15 at 7:50 pm to
So what about a chocolate IPA? I've had chocolate a few times while drinking an IPA and it is actually a really good match. This got me wondering if a chocolate IPA would work? Anyone got some thoughts on that?
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/26/15 at 9:16 pm to
Seems like the worst combination in the world.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 9/26/15 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

Seems like the worst combination in the world.


You are obviously crazy!

I'm all in now
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/26/15 at 9:35 pm to
Those two just seem like polar opposites.
Posted by James Russell
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/26/15 at 11:34 pm to
Haha I didn't expect to be a fan of coffee in IPAs and PAs but I was wrong about that. Maybe a dark or bitter chocolate could work.

Doubt it though
This post was edited on 9/26/15 at 11:35 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Those two just seem like polar opposites


Yeah, it is probably best to just stick to having a bit of chocolate with an IPA than trying to make a Chocolate IPA.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:24 am to
I really like chocolate and citrus together. I think it could work if done right.

Maybe an Amarillo/Citra IPA with chocolate powder and/or cocoa nibs...

It sounds like one of those beers that either turns out great or is down right awful.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:00 pm to
I am going to get a English Barley Wine going (hopefully this weekend) to finally put some beer into the barrels that I have at the house. I off-loaded one of the barrels to a buddy yesterday so I have two that are still sitting empty. Had to convince a friend to brew some beer as well so that I wasn't stuck brewing 15 gallons of Barley wine.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14690 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

I off-loaded one of the barrels to a buddy yesterday


ha. let me know if you have a plethora of those thing or what but that's still a task to fill one up but could be really fun.

Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16264 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:49 pm to
Weather looks like it should be great for Brew at the Zoo Friday. High of 82 and low of 57. Should be in the low 70s and clear during the event.
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