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Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:16 pm to
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Taking into account that the brew day will probably be a disaster


Typhoon amber. Might as well go with something you know.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:19 pm to
True, but I have a version of that on tap now.

I just had a conversation with my dad. Apparently I committed to making a Watermelon Kolsch for a party in a few weeks. Might just make a basic pale ale in lieu of trying to work with a Koslch yeast.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 5:10 pm to
Just got word from Chico that LA homebrew is officially carrying Gigayeast. First shipment including Vermont IPA (Conan) will be in this Friday.

I cat wait to try that Farmhouse Sour blend.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 5:16 pm to
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Farmhouse Sour blend.


What's the description of that one? I don't see it on Giga's site.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 5:24 pm to
I didn't see it on their site either.

These are the bacteria blend descriptions from their email.

quote:

Farmhouse Sour GB121 (a blend of Belgian ale yeast, Brett and lactic acid bacteria--  sweet, sour and a little funky)

Berliner Blend GB122 (A blend of neutral ale yeast and lactic acid bacteria.  Use directly in a primary to make a crisp, sour beer!)

Sour Plum Belgian GB123 (Belgian ale yeast and lactic acid bacteria.  Cleaner than GB121.  Creates a simple beer with stone fruit/plum esters and sour notes)
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 8:13 pm to
Hmmm. Might need to find an excuse to schedule a meeting in BR.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 8:14 pm to
With apologies to B, I have another sour question. Let's say I wanted to make a sour with peaches. Could I ferment with regular saison yeast for a couple weeks, then rack to a secondary onto peaches and add bugs?
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 7:38 am to
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Could I ferment with regular saison yeast for a couple weeks, then rack to a secondary onto peaches and add bugs?


Of course. A lot depends on how long you want the peaches to be in the carboy with the beer. I have heard (not seen) of some fresh fruit growing mold in the carboy, so you may want to transfer a 3rd time to get the beer off of the peaches after 2 weeks or so.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 7:50 am to
I agree with Frat. I'd go 1-2-3. And really any primary yeast will work depending on what bugs you add. A lot of people use a fairly clean sacch strain.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 7:59 am to
thanks guys.

let me follow up with a more general question. What are the reasons for going with an ale yeast for primary then adding bugs vs adding both at the same time?

As for the peaches, I thought the same thing, that I would not leave them in the entire time in the secondary for fear of molding. I am also considering adding some fruit at flameout.

and then there is the option of souring the wort like I did with my BW, then proceeding like normal.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 8:02 am
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:04 am to
quote:

let me follow up with a more general question. What are the reasons for going with an ale yeast for primary then adding bugs vs adding both at the same time?


It depends on how sour you want the final product to be. If you throw enough bugs in immediately, they will start to eat some of the simple sugars (same as ale yeast) producing more acid/flavors since they have more to eat. If you want until primary fermentation is over to add the bugs, they have less food to eat meaning that they produce less off flavors. At least that is the general idea that I have.
Posted by LSURoss
SWLAish
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:08 am to
Anyone got a 5lb co2 they don't need? got everything else run for my kegerator.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27070 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:10 am to
I just looked it up in my book, but Tonsmeire says to pitch everything at once on the homebrew level unless you are aging in a barrel. All the big breweries usually do a clean ferment then transfer to barrels with bugs, but apparently at home it works better to give the bugs oxygen early on.
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:12 am to
The latest brewing network session has the guys from rare barrel. Take a listen, those guys know a thing or two about sours
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:14 am to
what book?
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:19 am to
I posted this on FB last night but for those not in my brew club's page. Here is my almost complete new system.



I have to attach the control panel (after I change a switch out to make it function the way I want). The new chiller was just ordered (DudaDiesel 30 plate chiller). Everything should be ready to go for Saturday.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 8:19 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:23 am to
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what book?


American Sour Beers
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:23 am to
awesome, thanks!

Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:25 am to
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American Sour Beers


How far have you gotten through that book? I was moving along quickly at first but have stalled out some. Which is what I do for most of the books that I have. Use them more for reference than light reading.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:38 am to
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DudaDiesel 30 plate chiller


RIMS and a plate chiller nice upgrade!!
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