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Designing a Kitchen (well sort of) - need some ideas
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:11 pm
So I'll be building a house soon and I'm trying to get all of my kitchen ideas settled before I jump into things.
So far the only big kitchen item I have on my wish list is an induction range
Was debating on a wine cooler and possibly refrigerator drawers if I can justify it in the budget
What are some things you would want in a kitchen?
So far the only big kitchen item I have on my wish list is an induction range
Was debating on a wine cooler and possibly refrigerator drawers if I can justify it in the budget
What are some things you would want in a kitchen?
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:12 pm to Powerman
farmhouse sink
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:18 pm to iheartlsu
Thanks
Not sure which direction I'm going to go with the sink yet. Something I need to think about.
Debating on countertops right now. Don't want granite...I was thinking maybe butcher block on the island and quartz on the countertops
Not sure which direction I'm going to go with the sink yet. Something I need to think about.
Debating on countertops right now. Don't want granite...I was thinking maybe butcher block on the island and quartz on the countertops
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:21 pm to Powerman
I wish the island had electrical outlets on it. That way, when I have people over and all the food is on the island, I can put food warmers or something in a crockpot on the island with all the other food. Also wish the island had doors on both sides so I could get stuff out from either direction instead of pulling things out one by one to get to stuff in the back.
My inlaws have warming drawers that come in handy for xmas and thanksgiving when people bring lots of casseroles.
Double Oven.
Microwave NOT above the stove.
A water spicket over the stove.
I wouldn't mind a farmhouse sink
My inlaws have warming drawers that come in handy for xmas and thanksgiving when people bring lots of casseroles.
Double Oven.
Microwave NOT above the stove.
A water spicket over the stove.
I wouldn't mind a farmhouse sink
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:26 pm to Powerman
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Was debating on a wine cooler and possibly refrigerator drawers if I can justify it in the budget
I would't waste space in my kitchen proper for a wine fridge. Would relegate that to a closet or other space in the house. They're not that great to look at aesthetically anyways.
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Debating on countertops right now. Don't want granite...I was thinking maybe butcher block on the island and quartz on the countertops
I like sealed concrete or black or white quartz. Have only ever seen 1 or 2 granites I like and they're both expensive as frick. Anything but that cheap, generic brown granite gated communities put in their show homes.
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What are some things you would want in a kitchen?
island with a contrasting top (butcher block if primaries are quartz, for example).
traditional fridge. I can't stand the shallow french door types with the bottom freezer.
double oven if you plan to host holiday meals or family gatherings
window above the sink if possible
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:27 pm to Powerman
Love my double oven
Wish i had an ice maker
Wish i had an ice maker
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:29 pm to Rohan2Reed
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I would't waste space in my kitchen proper for a wine fridge. Would relegate that to a closet or other space in the house. They're not that great to look at aesthetically anyways.
I was thinking of having it tucked away inside of the Island so it doesn't consume more space...
But you're right that visually it doesn't really add anything
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I can't stand the shallow french door types with the bottom freezer.
Really? I hate the side by side ones.
The more I'm looking into this drawer refrigerator thing the more I'm thinking I want that and only that. With no freestanding fridge in addition to it.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:34 pm to iluvdatiger
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A water spicket over the stove.
I'm having a dilemma with this
The house I'm going to have built has a pot filler in the kitchen...but I was contemplating moving the stovetop to the Island...but that of course would eliminate the pot filler.
Part of me thinks I've gone this long without one so no big deal anyway. I don't know.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:41 pm to iheartlsu
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farmhouse sink
Yep
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:42 pm to Powerman
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I was thinking of having it tucked away inside of the Island so it doesn't consume more space...
But you're right that visually it doesn't really add anything
It does add a little convenience being right there. If it works in your particular kitchen to where it doesn't detract from other space or look funky then i say go for it. I would research energy use .. don't those little bastards suck a lot of juice?
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Really? I hate the side by side ones.
I hate the side by side ones as well. This is my style.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:44 pm to wickowick
I am a big fan of having all my counters the same height. We also had cabinets custom made and the bases are a couple of inches deeper than standard. Gives a ton more counter space and cabinet storage and really didn't cost that much more money...
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:49 pm to Powerman
I've never understood the big deal about having a pot filler. I've never wanted one and I make a lot of big stocks and boil large pots of pasta, but there are so many other things I'd rather have than a pot filler.
Definitely get double ovens and large ones. I'm about to get a warming drawer.
I have electrical outlets at each end of my island. It's a long island, so each end has served many purposes. I have a lot of outlets in my kitchen in various places.
Consider lights under your cabinets in work areas. Get a good light above your sink and not one of those dinky night lights.
I love having a ceiling fan in the cook area when I've got a lot of things on the stove and in ovens. I added additional AC vents recently, also.
Think about how you cook, how you move around when you cook, the types of things you cook and want to cook in considering your appliance.
Can't say much on the fridge. I don't think I'd like the fridge drawers at all.
Definitely get double ovens and large ones. I'm about to get a warming drawer.
I have electrical outlets at each end of my island. It's a long island, so each end has served many purposes. I have a lot of outlets in my kitchen in various places.
Consider lights under your cabinets in work areas. Get a good light above your sink and not one of those dinky night lights.
I love having a ceiling fan in the cook area when I've got a lot of things on the stove and in ovens. I added additional AC vents recently, also.
Think about how you cook, how you move around when you cook, the types of things you cook and want to cook in considering your appliance.
Can't say much on the fridge. I don't think I'd like the fridge drawers at all.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:51 pm to Powerman
A separate butler's pantry to house your lesser used appliances, holiday trays, and bulk goods. This a good place for a drink fridge, ice maker, or wine fridge.
A large island with no built in appliances. A large work surface with electrical outlets. Leave and overhang on your countertop to make it easy to scrape stuff into the trash and keep from getting snagged on the cabinet hardware.
Most nice double ovens have a warm or hold setting. That eliminates the need for a single purpose warming drawer. Double ovens trump a large range in that both ovens can be the same size. The second oven on ranges are narrow little things.
A large, deep sink is a necessity for large pots and pans. Go wide and deep. Farmhouse sinks are nice, and so are undercount stainless ones.
Drawers everywhere. Big deep drawers are easier to work with than beep cabinets. With drawers, you can easily reach things. Have pullout trays in your kitchen pantry for the same reason.
Plumb gas into your range area, even if you don't want it now.
Get an on-demand water heater for your kitchen. Dishwashers are more efficient with really hot water.
I don't like the risk of a faucet above the stove with no drain. Some people love them, I don't. Your kitchen should be designed with the range in close proximity to the sink anyway.
Install a casement window above the sink. You can crank it wide open on pretty days, and when you smoke the house up.
Allow 4 foot between your counter and island.
A large island with no built in appliances. A large work surface with electrical outlets. Leave and overhang on your countertop to make it easy to scrape stuff into the trash and keep from getting snagged on the cabinet hardware.
Most nice double ovens have a warm or hold setting. That eliminates the need for a single purpose warming drawer. Double ovens trump a large range in that both ovens can be the same size. The second oven on ranges are narrow little things.
A large, deep sink is a necessity for large pots and pans. Go wide and deep. Farmhouse sinks are nice, and so are undercount stainless ones.
Drawers everywhere. Big deep drawers are easier to work with than beep cabinets. With drawers, you can easily reach things. Have pullout trays in your kitchen pantry for the same reason.
Plumb gas into your range area, even if you don't want it now.
Get an on-demand water heater for your kitchen. Dishwashers are more efficient with really hot water.
I don't like the risk of a faucet above the stove with no drain. Some people love them, I don't. Your kitchen should be designed with the range in close proximity to the sink anyway.
Install a casement window above the sink. You can crank it wide open on pretty days, and when you smoke the house up.
Allow 4 foot between your counter and island.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:54 pm to Powerman
Walk in Pantry
Pebble Ice Machine in pantry
Drawers everywhere
Good work space specific lighting. LED lights are great.
High capacity vent fan.
Multiple Power breakers - hate tripped breakers.
I'd strongly consider a Sub Zero side by side if I could devote six feet of wall space to a Refrigerator and Freezer combo.
Small prep sink with disposal on Island.
Pebble Ice Machine in pantry
Drawers everywhere
Good work space specific lighting. LED lights are great.
High capacity vent fan.
Multiple Power breakers - hate tripped breakers.
I'd strongly consider a Sub Zero side by side if I could devote six feet of wall space to a Refrigerator and Freezer combo.
Small prep sink with disposal on Island.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:57 pm to MeridianDog
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Posted by Message MeridianDog Designing a Kitchen (well sort of) - need some ideas Walk in Pantry
I'd build you a bedroom and bath near my kitchen if you cooked everyday.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:02 pm to Btrtigerfan
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if you cooked everyday
Work is a pain right now and I'm not cooking that much.
However, the wife has been baking sourdough bread and my weight is headed in the wrong direction because of her efforts.
Only thing in the world better than a slice of warm, freshly sliced sourdough bread with butter is the four slices I had last night.
Sorry for hijack.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:02 pm to Powerman
full extension drawers
full extension drawer slides on your bottom shelves
full extension drawer slides on your bottom shelves
Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:12 pm to Salmon
We put our microwaze on a pull out drawer (never gets pulled out) on the top shelf of our lower cabinets. Easy to access and not visible. I really like it there...
Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:20 pm to Powerman
I redid my kitchen a few years ago and have been really happy with it. I cook a lot, so it was really important that it be functional above all else. I also had limited space. I tried to lay mine out so that I could stand in one place and have access to all the things I would need while at the stove. The only thing I wasn't able to do was have the fridge as close as I wanted as the layout just wouldn't allow it.
For refrigeration I chose a fridge only unit and have freezer drawers in the island, which has a butcher block top. I don't really need ready access to the freezer on a day to day basis (I doubt most do and if you have the flexibility, I'd suggest putting it somewhere else), and I have a full sized freezer in the basement, so this arrangement works for me. The butcher block was a must for me. Another thing that was really important to me was power access, so I have two sets of outlets on the island, as well as all around the kitchen on the backsplash. You can't have too many outlets. I would agree that the wine fridge is non-essential. If you have a lot of extra space, go for it, but I'd rather use that for pots/pans/storage.
ETA: one other thing I would have done if I'd had space, is put the trashcans in the island to scrape stuff directly into them. I have mine in a cabinet on rails, but in the island would have been ideal.
For refrigeration I chose a fridge only unit and have freezer drawers in the island, which has a butcher block top. I don't really need ready access to the freezer on a day to day basis (I doubt most do and if you have the flexibility, I'd suggest putting it somewhere else), and I have a full sized freezer in the basement, so this arrangement works for me. The butcher block was a must for me. Another thing that was really important to me was power access, so I have two sets of outlets on the island, as well as all around the kitchen on the backsplash. You can't have too many outlets. I would agree that the wine fridge is non-essential. If you have a lot of extra space, go for it, but I'd rather use that for pots/pans/storage.
ETA: one other thing I would have done if I'd had space, is put the trashcans in the island to scrape stuff directly into them. I have mine in a cabinet on rails, but in the island would have been ideal.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:25 pm to wickowick
Think long and hard about how you actually live...how do you spend your time in the kitchen? how do you entertain? Don't build in features you'll never use. I skipped the pot-filler faucet; it's not so hard to walk the three steps from the sink to the stove. I don't bother with a wine fridge; I don't keep too many bottles on hand at one time and generally remember to chill as needed.
But I have a table-height kitchen island (29"), which is several inches lower than countertops above cabinets. I'm short, it gives me a comfortable working height in my bare feet. No reaching up to chop on the higher, 32" countertops; I can roll out pastry and knead dough without straining. If you're tall, you might consider making the island a custom height for your comfort.
I also put the microwave inside a cubby in the island; those high on the wall things aren't short-person friendly. Custom island also has full-extension slide drawers 4" deep, sized to hold spice jars. Island has electrical outlets as well.
Didn't want a walk-in pantry; did a floor-to-ceiling cabinet pantry instead. Dual doors open up; separate sets for top and bottom halves. Adjustable shelves inside make the space flexible.
I put a double arched top window over the sink. Lovely view makes washing out your AM coffeecup a bit more pleasant each day.
Fridge drawers are overpriced and undersized. You will quickly find that LOTS of things are oddly shaped and won't fit into the fridge drawers. When they wear out (12-15 years), you'll be stuck with an oddly shaped hole and limited replacement options. Ditto for those dishwashing drawers. It costs 19 cents to run a full load; you're not saving much money by washing a single dish drawer at a time.
But I have a table-height kitchen island (29"), which is several inches lower than countertops above cabinets. I'm short, it gives me a comfortable working height in my bare feet. No reaching up to chop on the higher, 32" countertops; I can roll out pastry and knead dough without straining. If you're tall, you might consider making the island a custom height for your comfort.
I also put the microwave inside a cubby in the island; those high on the wall things aren't short-person friendly. Custom island also has full-extension slide drawers 4" deep, sized to hold spice jars. Island has electrical outlets as well.
Didn't want a walk-in pantry; did a floor-to-ceiling cabinet pantry instead. Dual doors open up; separate sets for top and bottom halves. Adjustable shelves inside make the space flexible.
I put a double arched top window over the sink. Lovely view makes washing out your AM coffeecup a bit more pleasant each day.
Fridge drawers are overpriced and undersized. You will quickly find that LOTS of things are oddly shaped and won't fit into the fridge drawers. When they wear out (12-15 years), you'll be stuck with an oddly shaped hole and limited replacement options. Ditto for those dishwashing drawers. It costs 19 cents to run a full load; you're not saving much money by washing a single dish drawer at a time.
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