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re: craft beer bars in the french quarter

Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:59 am to
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:59 am to
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Would a bar that carries craft beer be successful in the FQ?


I think it could if you marketed it as a Louisiana / Southeast US craft beer bar. Key would be to really getting your hands on all the good stuff .. not just Abita and Nola beers.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:00 am to
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I think this is considerably off base. Most people who dine in nice restaurants don't drink beer.


Not in Louisiana, but around the country they do. Hell look at places like Austin and Portland. New Orleans is trending the same way, demographically speaking. Portland, in particular, has great restaurant beer pairings.

I think the problem is, is that Louisiana is still behind on the craft beer scene, because a large portion of the population just doesn't know enough about it and thinks of beer as bud light. We are making a turnaround however. The last 5 years have seen an incredible explosion of beer offerings to our state. Hopefully the idiotic stigma of "beer is trashy, wine is elegant" will cease.
Personally, i find craft beer pairing to be way more interesting than wine pairings. The wide array of flavors in beer well exceed wine, IMO. But i'm also not a wino.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:03 am to
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Most people who dine in nice restaurants don't drink beer.


What?
Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:05 am to
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The upstairs was all the homebrew clubs


Except for TinRoof, which was weird...

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Seems like WYES had more homebrews than Zapp's last year.


I heard that Zapps is having to jump through a lot of hoops this year bc of the ATC stuff.

I think they are going to set up a lot like WYES this year, with homebrewers separated from the commercial brewers.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:08 am to
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around the country

rule.

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Hell look at places like Austin and Portland

exception.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not labeling beer as trashy.

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Personally, i find craft beer pairing to be way more interesting than wine pairings. The wide array of flavors in beer well exceed wine, IMO

That's fine, but how many beer pairings have you been to and how many wine pairings have you attended?

I've been to both and enjoy both. I find wine to be more easily paired with food. Again, IMO.

To claim that beer has more array of flavors is to overlook the fact that many beers destroy your palate. Pairing heavy beer is not an easy task.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:09 am to
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Most people who dine in nice restaurants don't drink beer.

Let me clarify.

I don't mean it never happens, but most people in New Orleans at nice restaurants are drinking wine or cocktails.

Don't believe me, go to dinner once in a while. Look at the other tables, then ask your waiter for the beer menu.

Prepare for goofy look.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 11:10 am
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:12 am to
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I think the problem is, is that Louisiana is still behind on the craft beer scene, because a large portion of the population just doesn't know enough about it and thinks of beer as bud light.


Very true. But I don't think it's b/c they are drinking Bud Light. Most people here drink the local craft beers b/c they are local products. Very hard to walk into a bar in town and not find Abita Amber, Canebrake, or NOLA blonde. People drink these regardless. No maven card required
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:14 am to
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To claim that beer has more array of flavors is to overlook the fact that many beers destroy your palate. Pairing heavy beer is not an easy task.
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:16 am to
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I would suspect most college towns are more hip to the craft beer scene then non college towns. Really? I'd suspect that beer mavens would be a little older than college kids. Maybe I'm wrong, though.



agree with this. most college towns ARE NOT craft beer meccas.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:17 am to
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s14suspense

You can roll your eyes.

I tell you what.

I'll post all the wine pairing events I can find and you post all the beer pairing events you can find. Who do you think will win?

Isn't this more fun then some bullshite chain restaurant review?

Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:22 am to
O brah, have you been to 45 Tchoup on wine and cheese night ?
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:23 am to
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I'll post all the wine pairing events I can find and you post all the beer pairing events you can find. Who do you think will win?


what exactly does this prove?
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:23 am to
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I'll post all the wine pairing events I can find and you post all the beer pairing events you can find. Who do you think will win?


Are you talking about number of events or quality of events?


Check this one out. Beer pairing event with food that's cooked with beers and some of the BEST beers in the world that cost no more than $20-$30/bottle.

LINK

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Sixth Course
Coriander and Orange Peel Encrusted Venison Tenderloins Seared and Cooked Sous Vide, Topped with a Maine Blueberry and St Feuillien Cuvée de Noël Demi Glaze and Hazelnut Oil Powder
Cantillion Iris 2005*




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Guinea Fowl Cooked in Kriek (Cherry Lambic) Served with a Cherry Sauce
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 11:31 am
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:23 am to
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Personally, i find craft beer pairing to be way more interesting than wine pairings. The wide array of flavors in beer well exceed wine, IMO.


I agree with the latter than beers offer a wider variety of flavors and nuances, but re: the former.. I think wine pairs better with food. It's very rare that I'll drink beer while I'm eating. Just not my thing. Too heavy.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:23 am to
I wonder if a World of Beer would do well in the FQ?

We had a thread about it before.

The one in Savannah has a really cool old building. NOLA has plenty obviously.

Local bands. Check.

No restaurant. No problem. Delivery from local places. No prob in NOLA.

500 beers. It would attract the tourists, but locals could enjoy it as well if it felt local and not sterile. Apparently the one in Dallas has the corporate feel to it.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:25 am to
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500 beers. It would attract the tourists, but locals could enjoy it as well if it felt local and not sterile.


Louisiana doesn't have 500 good beers that we get distributed. It works in places like Georgia, Florida and Texas because they have an abundance of good offerings.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:26 am to
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Louisiana doesn't have 500 good beers that we get distributed. It works in places like Georgia, Florida and Texas because they have an abundance of good offerings.


That's what TIA doesn't understand.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:27 am to
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how many beer pairings have you been to and how many wine pairings have you attended?


Beer? About 4 or 5. Not to mention what i drink at home with dinner. Wine, maybe 1.

But again, i don't go seeking out wine dinners.

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To claim that beer has more array of flavors is to overlook the fact that many beers destroy your palate.


That's false, and very simplistic explanation. Could you explain what you mean by destroyed palate?

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Pairing heavy beer is not an easy task.


What do you consider heavy? Some people call stouts heavy, despite the alcohol content.

Stouts = Oysters (incredible), Cheese, Chili, Nuts, Dessert, Brunch
IPA's = Mexican, moderately spiced foods, Fish
Wheat = Crawfish, fruits, fish
Pale Ale's = Pairs well with most dishes, especially cajun dishes.

If you consider an IPA a palate destroyer, then you probably aren't an IPA fan. I hated IPA's when i first started drinking craft brews. Now, it is my absolute favorite style.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 11:30 am
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:28 am to
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what exactly does this prove?


That somebody gets paid to play on the Internet all day.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52920 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:29 am to
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'll post all the wine pairing events I can find and you post all the beer pairing events you can find. Who do you think will win?


OK, i see what you are doing now. You're posts have been hinting of antagonism, and now they are out in the open. Don't go to that level.
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