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re: Nazis in Germany were a leftist/Marxist group
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:10 pm to ChEgrad
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:10 pm to ChEgrad
OP's a moron, Nazism and Marxism share the attributes of tyranny(extremism) and collectivism but the similarities end there: Nazism is VERY racist and strictly anti-communist bc they don't accept the Marxist class conflict concept and internationalism, private property and business was permitted in Nazi Germany and Nazi-occupied territories.
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:14 pm to reggieray420
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socialists not fascists
Fascists are socialists...
Fascists seek an intertwined industrial an governmental base...
They use abortion, sterilization, captivity and death to shape their population
They like universal healthcare and income
They like expansion of territory
There is a lot in common with them and the way the US works today...
Have you seen our prison system?
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:15 pm to ChEgrad
Revisionist myth. They were a conservative movement and the first thing they did was send all the communists to prison camps.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:17 pm to ChEgrad
lol you do know that the nazis blamed the burning of the reichstag on communists so that they could grab more power, right? Hitler detested both socialists and leftists, and he routinely maligned Marxism as a 'Jewish weapon' in Mein Kampf.
edit: btw the authenticity of that book you quoted is heavily disputed by scholars
edit: btw the authenticity of that book you quoted is heavily disputed by scholars
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:17 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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class conflict concept and internationalism, private property and business
There view was it still ultimately belongs to the state, though...despite being permitted
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:21 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Shhh. Don't let the sheep know that the Nazis were members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. That sounds very Bernie-esque.
A worker's party that eliminated labor rights.
They used a lot of words they didn't actually fulfill the meanings of. I doubt you would stand by their use of the word "liberators" to describe their aggressions.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:22 pm to IceTiger
i agree with you, to me its very simple, any advocacy of increased government or government run business is left in nature.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:24 pm to lsu777
No that is authoritarianism. Ever take take that political compass quiz? You guys are confounding the two dimensions.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:30 pm to ChEgrad
Is this what they teach nowadays in Louisiana? Or perhaps the topic is left to figure out via Breitbart et al?
Wow at the ignorance of the OP.
Wow at the ignorance of the OP.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:34 pm to IceTiger
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despite being permitted
The distinguishing element of both ideologies bc communist governments exclusively owned ALL property with no exception
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:37 pm to ChewyDante
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National Socialism was similar to Marxism in that it was authoritarian, but the ideologies were widely in opposition to one another aside from that. A very rudimentary reading of Hitler and other leading Nazi figures will show overwhelming contempt and condemnation for Marxism and Bolshevism. There's really no confusing where the Nazis stood in this respect. They were unequivocally anti-Marxist.
Listen to this man
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Point being, comparing the Nazis to America's right/left spectrum is a fool's errand.
But where's the fun in that?
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:39 pm to DownSouthJukin
quote:lol at calling people sheep when you're the one who doesn't realize that Europe is filled with political parties with very populist/pro-labor/socialist sounding names that are not actually populist, pro-labor, or socialist. This is because men's suffrage occurred during the industrialization of Europe, so the ability for every man to vote occurred at the same time that labor movements were forming. Lots of parties have names that sound leftist, but are actually right-wing.
hhh. Don't let the sheep know that the Nazis were members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. That sounds very Bernie-esque.
It's just branding/historical vestige.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:39 pm to ChEgrad
uh.
no.
no.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:40 pm to TejasHorn
quote:hurrr but it done got "socialist" in the name libtard!!!
Is this what they teach nowadays in Louisiana? Or perhaps the topic is left to figure out via Breitbart et al?
Wow at the ignorance of the OP.
*sits in a cloud of own farts*
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:41 pm to ChEgrad
It's absolutely true. Bernie is far closer to a nazi socialist than Trump. And I've never been a big Trump fan
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:42 pm to Hog on the Hill
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lol at calling people sheep when you're the one who doesn't realize that Europe is filled with political parties with very populist/pro-labor/socialist sounding names that are not actually populist, pro-labor, or socialist. This is because men's suffrage occurred during the industrialization of Europe, so the ability for every man to vote occurred at the same time that labor movements were forming. Lots of parties have names that sound leftist, but are actually right-wing.
Remind me which American party loves that strong central government again? You either want freedom for all or you want your brand of freedom for all.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:43 pm to Robin Masters
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Remind me which American party loves that strong central government again?
At this point, both seem to love different versions of it.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:45 pm to ChEgrad
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Antifa and the Nazi's are more closely aligned than the left will admit.
they were also authoritarian and very much like the far right in this country
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:46 pm to wmr
quote:generally speaking, antifa is explicitly anti-racist, so that doesn't make any sense
Many Leftists are openly anti-semitic. It doesn't take long to find an Antifa flyer online that is openly antisemitic, for example.
anti-racism is one of the primary ideals of antifa
it's a decentralized group so i'm not saying that there aren't some anti-semitic antifa out there, but that would be very peculiar and self-contradictory
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:46 pm to Hog on the Hill
All those Hitler quotes prove is that Hitler either did not understand Marxism or he was a liar. IMHO, he was probably both. To suggest that Marxism is democratic as AH did is absurd. In fact, PART of Hitler's appeal to the German business class was fear of Marxism or Communism.
On an ideological scale, Nazism and Marxism were polar opposites.
On a methodological scale, both were outside the system and often used similar tactics.
On an ideological scale, Nazism and Marxism were polar opposites.
On a methodological scale, both were outside the system and often used similar tactics.
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