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re: Do these weekly workout and diet totals seem excessive?

Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:04 pm to
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So you eat a 2,000 calorie dinner every night?



I know people that wont eat their first meal of the day until around 6pm and will consume 2500-2700 calories before they go to bed
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10296 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:08 pm to
Eating more than 30g of protein per meal is a waste. On top of that, by eating a large dinner you're just consuming all those calories late in your day when you probably won't be exercising after. Enjoy going to bed on a full stomach and waking up to a full colon. The point of sleep is to revitalize your muscles while you're in a fasted state. If your body is too busy digesting food all night then you're not getting the proper rest needed after burning all those calories in your workout.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:12 pm to
Diet is ridiculously stupid. And the only part of the workout that doesn't seem extreme is the pull-ups
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:18 pm to
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Eating more than 30g of protein per meal is a waste. On top of that, by eating a large dinner you're just consuming all those calories late in your day when you probably won't be exercising after. Enjoy going to bed on a full stomach and waking up to a full colon. The point of sleep is to revitalize your muscles while you're in a fasted state. If your body is too busy digesting food all night then you're not getting the proper rest needed after burning all those calories in your workout.


All of this is false.
Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:26 pm to
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So you eat a 2,000 calorie dinner every night?


I eat around 2500 cals from 7pm-10pm usually.


My total weekly cals are around 24,500
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14500 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:33 pm to
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Eating more than 30g of protein per meal is a waste.



Hasn't this been disproved?
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10296 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:42 pm to
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“Skeletal muscle protein synthesis is maximized by 25 to 35 grams of high-quality protein during a meal,” says Doug Paddon-Jones, Ph.D., a professor of nutrition and metabolism at the University of Texas Medical Branch.


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But if your muscles receive more than 35 grams of protein, they have all the building materials they need and the protein goes to other parts of your body—or into the toilet.


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What matters most is your total protein intake throughout the day. Reframe how you think about protein, especially if you’re trying to build muscle. Instead of eating 60 grams of protein during three meals a day, trying eating 25 to 35 grams of protein four or more times a day.
Posted by deNYEd
Houston
Member since Jul 2007
9689 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:50 pm to
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Eating more than 30g of protein per meal is a waste

no
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57473 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:53 pm to
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Finally, good luck adapting to all of that shite when you are in a caloric deficit and consuming a mere 2000 calories/day


I've been doing this routine every week for the last 6 years. I'm pretty used to it - might have to up the intensity.
Posted by deNYEd
Houston
Member since Jul 2007
9689 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:56 pm to
Picked this study/article bc it was most recent but is specifically about post workout intake, but this alone proves your comments false and outdated. Some broscience, BRO. LINK
even seen another recent study show findings that we could digest upwards of 100g of protein at a time
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31760 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:06 pm to
your wrong, go read all of the peer reviewed studies on lean gains. That professor also did not say that is all you can absorb, he said that protein synthesis is maxed, your body would absorb those first 35g and continue to absorb and digest the rest over time until it has digested the whole meal. Not trying to be mean because i use to believe this also, but bottomline is you are wrong.

your body doesn't have a switch to just stop absorbing protien, it takes hours upon hours to digest a large meal.

there is nothing wrong with having all calories in one meal at night. Its actually the healthiest way due to the health benifits of fasting. for those saying its unhealthy, again google the benifits of intermittent fasting.

as far the OP, I dunno if the diet is excessive or not. It would depend on the persons TDEE. As far as the workout "plan"; there is no plan and its stupid.

Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10296 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:11 pm to
That broscience is specific to immediate post workout protein intake, and if you read carefully what I wrote you would see I said >30g of protein per meal is a waste, which isn't a statement specific to immediate post workout protein intake at all.

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Two of the studies that came to the consensus that 20–25 grams of protein stimulates maximal MPS after exercise used leg-only workouts, whereas the present study used a whole-body workout protocol. This suggests that the greater overall amount of muscle mass activation during exercise may have an effect on protein requirements for maximal post-exercise protein synthesis.


Your article didn't debunk any of what I stated. It merely argues that meals composed of 40g of protein in comparison to 20g of protein were better for protein synthesis immediately post workout, and even more so for full body workouts vs specific muscle group workouts. FOH
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50261 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:14 pm to
Where did you get this, by the way?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57473 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:19 pm to
it's been my routine for the last 6 years
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14500 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:19 pm to
He's trolling
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:23 pm to
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I've been doing this routine every week for the last 6 years. I'm pretty used to it - might have to up the intensity.


How much do you weigh?

Have you had any sort of variation during that period of time?
Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:24 pm to
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it's been my routine for the last 6 years

Time to swap it up

Way more efficient ways to train.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 2:33 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31760 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:28 pm to
NotoriousFSU read number 5

read the studies assocaiated with it. Sorry but you are wrong and confusing max protein synthesis at one single point in time with max protein synthesis over a period of time.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50261 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:03 pm to
Assuming, of course, you are not trolling, shall I take it you are using 30% of your max weight?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57473 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:05 pm to
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shall I take it you are using 30% of your max weight?


For what? Squats? Bench Press? Or 30% my max lift for each rep? It's closer to the latter.
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