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re: Do these weekly workout and diet totals seem excessive?
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:05 pm to StarkRebel
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:05 pm to StarkRebel
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Im no Dr. Oz but this seems highly unhealthy.
It isn't. 3 meals a day is a social development, not a biological one.
I skip breakfast, but do eat lunch. Lunch and dinner always within an 8 hour window. It's called intermittent fasting. Have been doing it for a couple of years now and love it.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:06 pm to NotoriousFSU
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Eating more than 30g of protein per meal is a waste. On top of that, by eating a large dinner you're just consuming all those calories late in your day when you probably won't be exercising after. Enjoy going to bed on a full stomach and waking up to a full colon. The point of sleep is to revitalize your muscles while you're in a fasted state. If your body is too busy digesting food all night then you're not getting the proper rest needed after burning all those calories in your workout.
The only part I agree with is not pigging out before bed.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:06 pm to saint amant steve
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How much do you weigh?
Have you had any sort of variation during that period of time?
Depends. 160ish. Used to way more.
ETA: My routine is pretty consistent.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:06 pm to lsu777
From what I've researched on IF, and my own experience sticking with it for over a year now, it's fitting all your calories within a specific window of time each day. Eating 1 meal of 2,000+ calories at dinner time doesn't sound like IF. I've heard of 16, 18 and 20 hour fasts in the case of IF, but never 23 hours between 1 single meal. If you're getting results that way, then more power to you, but it sounds a bit extreme and very inconvenient to one's life.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:09 pm to lsu777
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As far as the workout "plan"; there is no plan and its stupid.
I never said there was a plan in the OP. I said those were weekly "totals" of all my reps. I have a routine with workouts etc that reach those totals throughout the week. I was just too lazy to type it up.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:09 pm to NotoriousFSU
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it sounds a bit extreme and very inconvenient to one's life.
You are correct and that is why I don't do it. It would most certainly be IF though. Just an extreme version.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:12 pm to NotoriousFSU
its called the warrior diet and I agree its inconvenient and I don't use that at all. But if anything it is more convenient for ones life as its less time eating, more time doing other things. Also allows to be able to do more carb backloading. But again I don't use it and it wasn't my point.
I was arguing over your insistance that anything over 35g per meal was a waste, its simply not true at all. It is simply wrong.
I was arguing over your insistance that anything over 35g per meal was a waste, its simply not true at all. It is simply wrong.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:13 pm to theunknownknight
there is nothing extreme about the totals. But you are taking a pounding with that much volume but to each his own.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:13 pm to theunknownknight
Seems like a lot of talking and arguing in this thread over meaningless nimbers. Not enough actual work going on. Just get in the gym and slam the weight. Don't make it your job to tell the whole world about it.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:22 pm to theunknownknight
Latter. All est klar.
Closer to it, eh? What percentage exactly? No joke, I'm thinking about trying something like that for the next month or so.....
You have probably got some serious definition going on, don't you?
Closer to it, eh? What percentage exactly? No joke, I'm thinking about trying something like that for the next month or so.....
You have probably got some serious definition going on, don't you?
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:35 pm to Dandy Lion
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Latter. All est klar.
Closer to it, eh? What percentage exactly? No joke, I'm thinking about trying something like that for the next month or so.....
You have probably got some serious definition going on, don't you?
Yeah I'm pretty ripped. If I had to pick a percentage - 30% sounds about right. I'm moving more two high intensity lifts lately just to shake things up.
The diet and recovery is the most difficult thing to adjust to at first so the first month is going to suck.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:46 pm to StarkRebel
quote:Why? Breakfast, lunch, and dinner are a societal element, not a human biology element
Im no Dr. Oz but this seems highly unhealthy.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:30 pm to theunknownknight
I'm an old fart, I won't do that diet.
Would you let me see your routine/S ?
I'd really appreciate it.
Would you let me see your routine/S ?
I'd really appreciate it.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:41 pm to Dandy Lion
I mix up the order on when I do the sets and cardio but for the most part it goes something like this:
Workout days are M/T/Thu/F
Each Workout day
20 Squats
100 calf raises
20 Squats
100 calf raises
20 Squats
80 calf raises
20 Squats
50 Leg Curls
50 Leg Extensions
20 Squats
40 ab hanging leg lifts
10 slow barbell curls
30 ab hanging leg lifts
10 slow barbell curls
30 ab hanging leg lifts
10 slow barbell curls
25 butterfly presses
16 butterfly presses
16 military presses
16 military presses
16 tricep extension skull crushers
16 pull-ups
16 tricep extension skull crushers
16 pull-ups
16 tricep extension skull crushers
16 Bench presses
16 Bench presses
16 Bench presses
50 sit-ups
30 minutes running/jogging/walking on treadmill at max incline to cooldown
Workout days are M/T/Thu/F
Each Workout day
20 Squats
100 calf raises
20 Squats
100 calf raises
20 Squats
80 calf raises
20 Squats
50 Leg Curls
50 Leg Extensions
20 Squats
40 ab hanging leg lifts
10 slow barbell curls
30 ab hanging leg lifts
10 slow barbell curls
30 ab hanging leg lifts
10 slow barbell curls
25 butterfly presses
16 butterfly presses
16 military presses
16 military presses
16 tricep extension skull crushers
16 pull-ups
16 tricep extension skull crushers
16 pull-ups
16 tricep extension skull crushers
16 Bench presses
16 Bench presses
16 Bench presses
50 sit-ups
30 minutes running/jogging/walking on treadmill at max incline to cooldown
Posted on 1/17/17 at 5:35 pm to Dandy Lion
I'd increase the calf raises by 250 reps. Also, try super setting them with glute ham squats.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 5:36 pm to Rossberg02
And what the hell is the intensity of all these reps. That is a key factor.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 5:45 pm to theunknownknight
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400 squats
3 workouts - that 133 reps per workout. 20-rep sets would be 1 warmup and roughly 6 sets - at the edge, but that's okay.
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1120 calf raises
That's ridiculous.
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200 leg extensions
Terrible exercise, but again - 3 workouts - 1 warmup set of 20 and you're only talking about 50 reps after.
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200 leg curls
That's fine - I've done that in a week, easily.
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120 barbell curls
Ditto - when I was doing Arnold's arm workout 2 times a week, probably closer to 150 reps.
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240 triceps extensions
That's fine - I've done that in a week, easily.
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192 bench presses
If 2x a week, that's a little bit much - but less than 100 reps - again, not knowing the program, hard to judge. If someone is doing a split with flat and incline 1 workout and flat and decline the next, you're talking less than 50 reps per exercise. If that's all flat, maybe a lot.
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164 butterfly presses
That's fine - I've done that in a week, easily.
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192 military presses
Same thing as the bench comment.
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128 pull-ups
That's nothing for someone doing pullups 3x per week.
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600 sit-ups
People do thousands of situps in a week (again, another terrible exercise, but if you're doing them, you can get up to 100 or 150 in a set).
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2 hours on the treadmill
In a week? 3 times that's 40 minutes each - 4 times that's 30 minutes each.
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- take in 12,000 - 14,000 calories a week
14000 calories would be completely normal and expected for a male athlete following a rigorous exercise program and maybe 170 or 180 pounds - might be too little for a larger athlete following such a workout you described.
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- drink just coffee in mornings
- usually bypass breakfast and lunch
- eat large dinner and whatever else you may want
So intermittent fasting? I've warmed up to this, but that's tough depending on when you work out. If you workout in the morning, your weight training is going to suffer - and if it doesn't, your recovery will not do well eating until 8 to 12 hours later. If you workout in the evening - you're going to be out of gas for all of it. Recovery will be okay if you eat right after, but I would suspect you will have to do some pre-workout snacking or supplementation if you're going to go all caveman diet and eat 1 large meal at the end of the day (presumably after the workout). 2000 calories is a shite ton to stuff in at 1 sitting, baw.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 5:52 pm
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