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re: VMI , West Point, or the Citadel?
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:24 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:24 am to Jim Rockford
Can a cadet choose to go to another service branch after graduation, like a West Point grad can they go to the USAF or do they have to go to the Army?
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Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:26 am to SamuelClemens
In theory, yes. In practice, likely not.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:29 am to Sancho Panza
quote:
James Ewell Brown Stuart was a 1854 graduate of the USMA.
Yes, and he actually transferred there from a small liberal arts school in far Southwest VA called Emory & Henry which is still around fwfw.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:30 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Lot of Citadel knights here. I heard what I heard from someone from Charleston, by the way. I don't know if he had an axe to grind or not, and I wasn't claiming personal authority on the subject - just saying what he told me.
He's a C. of Charleston alum if that matters
My second oldest daughter is C of C alum some years ago.
My bet is that your friend had an axe to grind.
The Citadel, or as we refer to it here The Military College of South Carolina, is a good school. It's not easy to get into. It's demanding academically.
Cadets fired the first shots on the Yankees and the school was pretty much made to pay for that act during reconstruction - it's a wonder they ever recovered.
West Point though, or the Naval Academy, they are prestigious, no doubt.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:31 am to WPBTiger
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you don't turn down West Point
I've met someone who did, and after he did basic in order to get in. Didn't know the guy, but spent an afternoon with him and we chatted about it. Left scratching my head how he could have done that.
Met another guy who dropped out of the naval academy too. Another one that blew my mind.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:33 am to scrooster
The USAF academy in CO is prestigious and the business like structure and advanced technology open so many doors for officers who choose to decommission and enter the civilian job force.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:35 am to Deactived
Best of both worlds. Big state school plus military academy environment/training style. One of the reasons I turned down a USAFA application sponsorship offer.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 11:35 am
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:39 am to Jim Rockford
Lot of factors to decide honestly. If they're dead-set on the Army, then the USMA all the way. If they're open to other service branches, I'd say USAFA, then USNA, then USMA...and I say that as someone with an Army background.
If they just want the education, do their required time, then get out? USAFA all day long.
If they just want the education, do their required time, then get out? USAFA all day long.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:39 am to Jim Rockford
You're essentially set for life if you graduate from West Point.
You have to have Congressional Recommendation to get in I believe. I would say it carries as much or more weight than an Ivy on a resume to a lot of people/companies. It shows not only that you're highly intelligent, but also possess leadership skills and are well rounded. Its hard to buy your way into West Point, which is a large portion of Ivy students (super wealthy kids).
You have to have Congressional Recommendation to get in I believe. I would say it carries as much or more weight than an Ivy on a resume to a lot of people/companies. It shows not only that you're highly intelligent, but also possess leadership skills and are well rounded. Its hard to buy your way into West Point, which is a large portion of Ivy students (super wealthy kids).
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:40 am to Mear
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From my experience, there is no noticeable difference from ROTC, OCS, or WP officers.
The difference comes after you separate from the service and the doors that will open for you,
"The networking from attending West Point is amazing.".
Former officers from state schools are a dime a dozen, and I count myself in that group.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:41 am to Walking the Earth
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In theory, yes. In practice, likely not.
After the Air Force became a separate branch and before the AFA was founded, you could go the the Air Force from the USNA or USMA.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:42 am to Jim Rockford
The Citadel if he wants to become a Maester.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:45 am to TbirdSpur2010
You don't pick A&M over West Point.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:49 am to Jim Rockford
Your snap judgment is correct.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:51 am to Jim Rockford
West Point and it's not even close.
The others may be fine, but West Point has a name brand that is not regional.
The others may open some doors as well, but West Point has broader recognition and a better academic reputation.
The others may be fine, but West Point has a name brand that is not regional.
The others may open some doors as well, but West Point has broader recognition and a better academic reputation.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:56 am to TbirdSpur2010
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TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:58 am to Jim Rockford
Well, you don't require a congressional or senatorial endorsement to get into VMI or the Citadel...
Nationally, yes. However, in Texas the Aggie Network is leaps and bounds more influential.
quote:
"The networking from attending West Point is amazing."
Nationally, yes. However, in Texas the Aggie Network is leaps and bounds more influential.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:58 am to Wolfhound45
aTm is a shell of the 'military school' it may have once been. Now it's nothing more than a regular state school with an ROTC program that honestly does nothing to distinguish itself from any other 4-year school.
Served with a female captain who went to aTm (she didn't do ROTC) and tried to educate us 'rubes' one day how it was called the 'West Point of the South'. I laughed and chimed in 'I think you're talking about VMI..."
She was pretty embarrassed someone knew she was full of shite
Bottom line: if you like being a minority in a college with more hispanics than any other race, go to ATM and try their ROTC.
If you want the prestige in the Army at least, you go to The Point, VMI, and then the rest (Norwich, Citadel, etc.) in that order.
Served with a female captain who went to aTm (she didn't do ROTC) and tried to educate us 'rubes' one day how it was called the 'West Point of the South'. I laughed and chimed in 'I think you're talking about VMI..."
She was pretty embarrassed someone knew she was full of shite
Bottom line: if you like being a minority in a college with more hispanics than any other race, go to ATM and try their ROTC.
If you want the prestige in the Army at least, you go to The Point, VMI, and then the rest (Norwich, Citadel, etc.) in that order.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:00 pm to Jim Rockford
West Point
Then VMI
Then Citadel, but by that point you're better off going the ROTC route anywhere else.
Then VMI
Then Citadel, but by that point you're better off going the ROTC route anywhere else.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:03 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Best of both worlds. Big state school plus military academy environment/training style. One of the reasons I turned down a USAFA application sponsorship offer.
My brother -in-law went thru Army ROTC at LSU during the 90's and after graduation commissioned into the USAF as an engineer.
I didn't do the ROTC at LSU. However after graduation I applied to the USAF and was accepted to the DLI in Monterey Calf. After graduation from the DOD multi-service language school I was contracted to the NSA from the USAF based on graduating the DLI top 10% and having 3/3/2+ Board exam results from the DLI on the final Board exams. The Turn over of my specific contract (based On of the Dept I was put in I became and civilian officer not related to the USAF and wore civilian clothes my entire time, was listed as GS # with civilian officer ranking. Once a year I was called back to the USAF commanders office at the NSA to attend some retirement ceremonies and would wear an older USAF dress uniform with old rankings (as the USAF had not control of over how the NSA ranked my GS levels and promotions. One benefit I still got all the paid time off the USAF game and the paid time off the NSA have so I have my cake and eat it too. Unique situation as aside from the others in my situation I never heard of any other cenerios existing (but we didn't discuss it due to need to lnow of know regardless of Top Secret clearances. I enjoyed it and had the economic boom not been out of control I would have stayed and retired from the DOD last year and confined to work the NSA as long as I wanted to continue going down the tech track as I had turned down the management track.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 12:12 pm
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