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re: VMI , West Point, or the Citadel?
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:06 pm to King Teal
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:06 pm to King Teal
Your entire post is full of shite so let me point out how bit by bit.
It's consistently the top ROTC program in region 1 and puts out an average of 200-250 officers per year group.
So, in other words, she was never a cadet.
First of all, "and tried to educate" implies that, in addition to serving with a Captain from A&M, YOU tried to "educate us rubes". Replace the word "and" with the word "who" and your sentence is correct.
Second of all, the vast majority of A&M cadets take offense to being called "the West Point of the South" since multiple commandants have attempted to make the Aggie Corps more like West Point instead of what had been successful for almost 100 years to the detriment of all involved.
Bottom line: You're full of shite.
In my nearly 17 years in the Army, I have never seen any evidence to make that statement true. If you want "prestige", you make yourself stand out regardless of commissioning source. Any background advantage you had prior to commissioning becomes null and void once you make Captain. You either succeed on your own merit, get chosen early for future success, get a senior rater with a favorable profile, or get left behind.
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Now it's nothing more than a regular state school with an ROTC program that honestly does nothing to distinguish itself from any other 4-year school.
It's consistently the top ROTC program in region 1 and puts out an average of 200-250 officers per year group.
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Served with a female captain who went to aTm (she didn't do ROTC)
So, in other words, she was never a cadet.
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and tried to educate us 'rubes' one day how it was called the 'West Point of the South'. I laughed and chimed in 'I think you're talking about VMI...
First of all, "and tried to educate" implies that, in addition to serving with a Captain from A&M, YOU tried to "educate us rubes". Replace the word "and" with the word "who" and your sentence is correct.
Second of all, the vast majority of A&M cadets take offense to being called "the West Point of the South" since multiple commandants have attempted to make the Aggie Corps more like West Point instead of what had been successful for almost 100 years to the detriment of all involved.
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Bottom line: if you like being a minority in a college with more hispanics than any other race, go to ATM and try their ROTC.
Bottom line: You're full of shite.
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If you want the prestige in the Army at least, you go to The Point, VMI, and then the rest (Norwich, Citadel, etc.) in that order.
In my nearly 17 years in the Army, I have never seen any evidence to make that statement true. If you want "prestige", you make yourself stand out regardless of commissioning source. Any background advantage you had prior to commissioning becomes null and void once you make Captain. You either succeed on your own merit, get chosen early for future success, get a senior rater with a favorable profile, or get left behind.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 12:09 pm
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Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:08 pm to SamuelClemens
quote:Martin?
SamuelClemens
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:10 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I love the Aggie butthurt about their ROTC program
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:12 pm to Jim Rockford
Where would the Louisiana State Seminary of Learning & Military Academy rank among these schools?
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:12 pm to King Teal
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I love the Aggie butthurt about their ROTC program
Translation: "I have no rebuttal"
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:12 pm to King Teal
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Served with a female captain who went to aTm (she didn't do ROTC) and tried to educate us 'rubes' one day how it was called the 'West Point of the South'. I laughed and chimed in 'I think you're talking about VMI..."
So she was never in the Corps. Also, I've never heard Aggies say "west point of the south" ever, and I'm second generation. We ain't southerners.
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if you like being a minority in a college with more hispanics than any other race
First off, what? TAMU is majority white. By a HUGE margin.
Secondly, wtf is wrong with hispanics? I live in a majority Hispanic city and it's awesome. My two best friends from A&M are latino.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:14 pm to King Teal
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love the Aggie butthurt about their ROTC program
You just hate A&M. Which is fine, everyone has their druthers. At least own it, though.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:14 pm to Jim Rockford
My sister went to the Naval Academy and her husband went to the Air Force Academy. They met in Annapolis while he was doing an exchange program. From what he tells me, the AFA sounds like the most bearable of all the service academies. All are extremely difficult to get into. When my sister tells me about her college life, it sounds like the biggest beating of all time.
ETA He's a CEO and she's a stay at home mom (with an aeronautical engineering degree from USNA).
ETA He's a CEO and she's a stay at home mom (with an aeronautical engineering degree from USNA).
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:15 pm to nobigdeal69
Without an official endorsement from a Congressional Representative, U.S. Senator, or senior executive official from the White House or Pentagon, attendance in a service academy is a non-starter anyway.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:17 pm to scrooster
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The Citadel, or as we refer to it here The Military College of South Carolina, is a good school. It's not easy to get into
The acceptance rate is hovering 77%...
ETA: I'm sorry to be a dick, but some of you on this site are just too fricking stupid.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:27 pm to Jim Rockford
ROTC bro you still commission and actually have social skills.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:29 pm to King Teal
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Bottom line: if you like being a minority in a college with more hispanics than any other race, go to ATM and try their ROTC
Besides your whole post being stupid, where did you get this from?
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:30 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Without an official endorsement from a Congressional Representative, U.S. Senator, or senior executive official from the White House or Pentagon, attendance in a service academy is a non-starter anyway.
If the candidate is serious about it at all, the above isn't much of a problem.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:30 pm to Jim Rockford
Aggie: for all your faux military needs
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:34 pm to King Teal
quote:Just an observation, you would have been better off just listing out schools to attend. Considering I am an officer with 35 years of commissioned service (and counting - do the math) on my second brigade command, I kind of (somewhat) know what I am talking about.
King Teal
Just saying.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:36 pm to Jim Rockford
Today, and going forward into the future...
USNA
AFA
USMA
USNA
AFA
USMA
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:39 pm to TN Bhoy
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If the candidate is serious about it at all, the above isn't much of a problem.
Nowadays the Academies run the admissions process and the Senators and Reps go along with their recommendations pretty much down the line. It wasn't always so. Al Capone's attorney got a Naval Academy appointment for his son in exchange for turning state's evidence. It got the old man whacked, but Butch O'Hare went on to receive a Medal of Honor at the Battle of the Coral Sea and had an airport named after him. LINK
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:41 pm to Jim Rockford
Been around all of them, and only one group consistently dislikes where they came from when they are fresh from commissioning: West Point. This is a serious reply.
Lt's from WP often don't even want to talk about that place. I knew of one guy fresh from WP that wanted to make the Army a career or at least a long term stop. He was made fun of by his classmates. Most of them were already counting the days till they could submit their REFRAD.
Others that are legacies with fathers that went to WP, know they're going to make field grade no matter what, because of the legacy. Hardly provides much motivation to be good in the company grade years. Also the West Point Protective Society as some call it, appears to be a real thing. Example, one guy whose dad was brigade commander in the 82nd, and he knew whatever station he wanted, whatever assignment, etc, was his. Have seen them (not often) disregard what their bosses say because their parent is of a higher rank than the boss. And, have seen senior officers from WP single out other WP officers (who they evaluate) to the point where fairness and objectivity can legitimately be questioned.
Just a strange place. Like the Ivy League it lives on reputation but there are some serious questions about the legitimacy of that reputation. I have been really shocked how many of the recent graduates seemed to dislike the place. Something is wrong up there.
Lt's from WP often don't even want to talk about that place. I knew of one guy fresh from WP that wanted to make the Army a career or at least a long term stop. He was made fun of by his classmates. Most of them were already counting the days till they could submit their REFRAD.
Others that are legacies with fathers that went to WP, know they're going to make field grade no matter what, because of the legacy. Hardly provides much motivation to be good in the company grade years. Also the West Point Protective Society as some call it, appears to be a real thing. Example, one guy whose dad was brigade commander in the 82nd, and he knew whatever station he wanted, whatever assignment, etc, was his. Have seen them (not often) disregard what their bosses say because their parent is of a higher rank than the boss. And, have seen senior officers from WP single out other WP officers (who they evaluate) to the point where fairness and objectivity can legitimately be questioned.
Just a strange place. Like the Ivy League it lives on reputation but there are some serious questions about the legitimacy of that reputation. I have been really shocked how many of the recent graduates seemed to dislike the place. Something is wrong up there.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 1:00 pm to UF
Damn, dude. Sounds like a dysfunctional circus run by military elite.
What a nightmare, if that's the case.
What a nightmare, if that's the case.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 1:08 pm to Jim Rockford
West Point and it ain't close
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