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re: Black Man's Unfortunate Interaction With Cincinnati Police While Getting Coffee

Posted on 3/7/16 at 5:06 am to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 5:06 am to
If the guy was minding his own business the cop was out of line.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 5:14 am to
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Obviously high? Are we looking at the same video? Gtfoh! No way would it have been the same interaction if that guy was white. You're clearly being disingenuous. Do you ever see cops posted up outside Starbucks waiting to stalk and survey patrons who leave to see if they have bloodshot eyes or appear "suspicious"? People like you are the reason why the wheel of inequality keeps on turning. You turn a blind eye to an obvious miscarriage of authority and an outright injustice. Shame on you.




Gosh you are right no white person has ever been arrested or ticketed before. My white arse gets to run out in the road wherever I wish, cop tells me to free my hands and I get to ignore his arse no problem, bit of weed on me- no problem for the white devil.

Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 5:25 am to
It may be racial profiling, and at the heart of it, that's completely wrong. But, it's kind of a "what came first, chicken or the egg" scenario. Why do cops keep pulling over certain demographics. Is it because there's a higher percentage chance they're breaking the law. Again, it's not right, but by actually having the weed on you, you are doing as much harm as the cop in regards to perpetuating profiling. And I know it's dumb since it's weed and nothing serious, and I'm sure for every black guy with weed there is a white guy, but percentages wise, if the cops keep "winning" and catching you in the act of something illegal, it's bad for the issue.

There may be a problem that needs to be fixed (there definitely is), but cases like this are a bad place to start.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 5:31 am to
If the black guy was not so belligerent I doubt he would have had an issue. Also we don't know what happened before he started filming.

Weed is harmless, but yelling and arguing with cops should get you put in jail. That goes for every race.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 5:41 am to
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It may be racial profiling, and at the heart of it, that's completely wrong. But, it's kind of a "what came first, chicken or the egg" scenario. Why do cops keep pulling over certain demographics. Is it because there's a higher percentage chance they're breaking the law.

Except that whites and blacks use drugs at the same rate.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 5:43 am to
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Also we don't know what happened before he started filming.

Aaah, always this one. If something unlawful happaned earlier, you can be assured the douche cop would have got him earlier.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 5:48 am to
Well the cop obviously had some reason to follow him and the guy an joust had some reason to start filming. I'm just saying we don't know the whole story.

I firmly believe that the black guy would have not had any problems if he did the following...
1. Communicated with respect to the officer. No yelling or arguing.
2. Not carry weed around in a place where it is illegal.

This is not rocket science people.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 6:03 am to
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This is not rocket science people








Incredibly ignorant post
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 6:05 am to
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Well the cop obviously had some reason to follow him and the guy an joust had some reason to start filming. I'm just saying we don't know the whole story.

I firmly believe that the black guy would have not had any problems if he did the following...
1. Communicated with respect to the officer. No yelling or arguing.


* exactly what is the 'obvious' reason?
* if the COP would not have harassed him, there would be no problem. The COP created a problem where there was none.
* your solution is to let cops do whatever they like and citizens are to smile and treat them with respect.

Invalid search warrant for your home; what do you have to hide? Smile and lick the boots.

Stopped for questioning while walking the street for no reason; Smile and lick the boots.

Pulled over for no reason wasting your time and causing you to be late for a meeting; Smile and lick the boots.

Yes, we can reduce these incidents by smiling and licking boots when cops are violating rights. We can also reduce them by cops doing their jobs and not acting like Nazis, which is the correct solution.

BTW, I'm a cranky, conservative, old man who have voted Republican in every election in my life and even I can see that law enforcement is WAY out of line these days.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 6:07 am to
I think it's systemic and snowballs for sure. You start profiling one demographic and keep hitting the jackpot, you'll keep doing that. I just don't see cops inherently hating blacks to the point that they want to keep them down. So in order to remedy that situation the only way is to make the cops wrong when they pull you over.

And how do we know whites and blacks use drugs at the same rates (per capita). Whites are caught, but let go because of their whiteness? But it's logged in the record for statistical purposes? I'm not trying to say a whites are better, just that how would we get that info without the arrest statistics being more neutral. I do believe the white numbers are skewed since they will not get pulled over as much, but no way to quantify that.

I truly think the only solution to change this human behavior is to prove it wrong. I realize that's an additional burden one race will have over another, but it's the only clear cut way. I do not believe racism is strong enough to sustain if we can teach one or two generations that stereotypes are wrong.
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 7:26 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 6:16 am to
They are both assholes

And I'd be pretty pissed if I had a cop just slowly following me down the street during a morning walk home from getting coffee
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 6:18 am
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17349 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 6:24 am to
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. You turn a blind eye to an obvious miscarriage of authority and an outright injustice. Shame


By arresting the guy committing a crime... Can't make this bullshite up
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 6:26 am to
How bout this.....he knew he was about to get busted and decided to start filming acting like he was on a leisurely stroll.


Oh, and cop is a dick
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 6:31 am to
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How bout this.....he knew he was about to get busted and decided to start filming acting like he was on a leisurely stroll.


This exactly, what we know for sure is a man was toting weed, crossing street improperly and combative with police. While all three are silly bullshite they are illegal.

We are asked to believe he was just getting coffee and walking home, who knows the cop may have just witnessed him selling pot

quote:

Oh, and cop is a dick


Without a doubt, makes zero difference to the facts
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 6:38 am to
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who knows the cop may have just witnessed him selling pot 


Yet didn't arrest him for it?

Come on
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 6:45 am to
Holy crap now you are jumping to conclusions about me.


Don't yell or argue with cops. Answer their questions.

But that's just me. I don't carry around illegal drugs on morning walks to get coffee. Therefore I have No reason to be paranoid/belligerent to a cop. Probably why I don't have an arrest record.
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 6:47 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71717 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 6:48 am to
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(he had weed on him


I feel so much safer with this dangerous criminal off the streets.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 6:51 am to
That's the old "if you have nothing to hide" logic. That throws any concept of privacy or individual rights right out of the window.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20140 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 6:59 am to
Black man, hoody, flat bill, obviously triggering suspicion by filming the policeman and begging to be stopped by continuously looking over his shoulder and sneaking a peak at the policeman. It was a setup and, if arrested, he gets to do what he is doing now. frick him and others who wish to gain $ for nothing.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4723 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 7:02 am to
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Well that cop's suspicion was correct. He was in fact breaking the law (he had weed on him, if you dont want to read article). End. This post was edited on 3/7 at 12:02 am


Anti-weed, pro-overbearing, racist police.


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