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re: Peyton Manning = tGOAT - Is it settled now?
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:03 pm to Reubaltaich
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:03 pm to Reubaltaich
quote:agree, no other QB in the modern era has had elite talent like Manning has had.
Nope, somewhere in the top 10 of all-time NFL QBs.
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Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:07 pm to Street Hawk
It's absurd to judge QBs by team results, he was terrible this year and won it.
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:07 pm to OKtiger
Peyton Manning has 5 MVPs. He was the best player of his generation and changed the way the position is played. He holds all the important records for his said position and as done it with multiple coaching staffs. 5 MVPs means he was almost the MVP for 1 out of every 3 season he was healthy.
How this is even a discussion is mind boggling.
How this is even a discussion is mind boggling.
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:07 pm to Street Hawk
It was settled in 2004 and it wasn't Manning.
This post was edited on 2/7/16 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:08 pm to TheWalrus
quote:Agreed. But that puts Peyton even more in a league of his own
It's absurd to judge QBs by team results, he was terrible this year and won it.
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:09 pm to BhamDore
quote:
Peyton Manning has 5 MVPs. He was the best player of his generation and changed the way the position is played. He holds all the important records for his said position and as done it with multiple coaching staffs. 5 MVPs means he was almost the MVP for 1 out of every 3 season he was healthy.
How this is even a discussion is mind boggling.
This...all of this.
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:09 pm to lsupride87
quote:
But that puts Peyton even more in a league of his own
Trent Dilfer is in that same league.
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:09 pm to shel311
10 active quarterbacks alone have higher career playoff passer ratings than Brady. He's below average in the playoffs and he's not even old and injured like Manning...so he has no excuse except he's a choker
This post was edited on 2/7/16 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:10 pm to RollTide1987
Are you a frickinn idiot? Dilfer has 5 MVPs and owns every damn Qb record there is to own?
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:12 pm to theunknownknight
quote:16th all time, not sure how that would equate to average though?
He's below average in the playoffs
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:12 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
10 active quarterbacks alone have higher career playoff passer ratings than Brady.
How many of them have been to 32 playoff games in their career? Your rating goes down the more games you play.
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:13 pm to TheWalrus
quote:you have to, otherwise brady can't beat peyton
It's absurd to judge QBs by team results
and it allows him to tie bradshaw
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:13 pm to shel311
quote:
16th all time, not sure how that would equate to average though?
Why don't the other 15 have at least 4 Superbowl rings? Oh that's right...Belichick didn't coach them every snap of their careers.
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:15 pm to lsupride87
quote:
It's absurd to judge QBs by team results, he was terrible this year and won it.
quote:
Agreed. But that puts Peyton even more in a league of his own
Trent Dilfer road his defense to a Super Bowl championship in 2000. Peyton Manning did the same in 2015. I was simply replying to your insinuation that this accomplishment is somehow unique.
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:16 pm to RollTide1987
quote:How so?
Your rating goes down the more games you play.
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:16 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
Oh that's right...Belichick didn't coach them every snap of their careers.
Belichick was 2-14 in 2000 without Brady. He's been the winningest coach in football ever since Brady took over at QB for the Patriots.
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:16 pm to theunknownknight
quote:How does 16th all time equate to an average QB rating?
Why don't the other 15 have at least 4 Superbowl rings? Oh that's right...Belichick didn't coach them every snap of their careers.
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:18 pm to RollTide1987
quote:No you dumbshit. If you choose to not judge a Qb by team accomplishments, which you shouldn't, it puts Manning in a league of his own and nobody else in this generation can touch him. The only argument you can make for Brady is a dumb team stat
Trent Dilfer road his defense to a Super Bowl championship in 2000. Peyton Manning did the same in 2015. I was simply replying to your insinuation that this accomplishment is somehow unique.
This post was edited on 2/7/16 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:18 pm to shel311
quote:
How so?
A QB who goes 18-20 for 302 yards and 3 TDs in his lone playoff appearance is going to have a better rating than a QB who has played in 32 different post-season games.
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:18 pm to shel311
quote:
How does 16th all time equate to an average QB rating?
average relative to GOATs...well actually below average
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