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re: Anyone deal with wetlands on their property?

Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by AFP
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:31 pm to
I had to do it in South Louisiana. You need to find someone who knows how to work with the corp of engineers. Also for the mitigation try to find a land bank that will mitigate 1:1, some round up to the nearest acre. Also, if willing to pay you can get whatever you want.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20403 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:39 pm to
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Are you building on the wetlands part?


No, I want to have the area dry so the rugrats can run around without getting muddy. I was thinking of putting in french drains.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126965 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:41 pm to
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Anyone deal with wetlands on their property?
Yes. We have some acreage that our house is on and much of it is considered wetlands. We looked into what it took to build a "mother-in-law" type dwelling on the part that is wetlands and the restrictive requirements were nightmarish. We just quit on the idea.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20403 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:43 pm to
I just need to keep the property dry enough for kids to play on.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12412 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:44 pm to
Dude, just keep the forested wetland as is. It's great for wildlife, and it can be an ecological "classroom" for the kids. And getting a little muddy is good for kids.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 12:45 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43222 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:49 pm to
In Florida, they let you use the wetlands area if you donate the same amount of land to some marsh in the middle of nowhere. It's a money grab by the state basically and is quite expensive. Wetlands there can just be the presence of certain plants etc, doesn't have to actually be wet per se. (I'm not sure what area you are talking about).


*** PLEASE, DO NOT BUY THE PROPERTY AND HOPE TO GET THE PERMIT OR USAGE CHANGED. MAKE THAT CONTINGENT IN THE OFFER. I learned this the hard way a while ago....
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43222 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:53 pm to
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I just need to keep the property dry enough for kids to play on.
OH. frick it, put some fill in there or a drain like you said. No one will ever know.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10327 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:26 pm to
Actually unless things have changed in the past few years as long as you are not adding dirt to the area or building something on the area determined as wetlands you do not have to do anything. You can use the property all you want just can't cut trees, or anything like that off of it.

In saying that if you are only talking about an acre or 2 I highly doubt anyone will ever give you any issues about it. It isn't like people are going around looking at every piece of wetlands.

We bought property in Central with some wetlands and built a house on it just chose a spot that was not wetlands. Never had an issue or ever had anyone come out and check..
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4187 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:32 pm to
questions:
does the property already have a Jurisdictional Determination issued? if so, then leave it alone or be really friendly to your neighbors so they don't rat on you.
if it is a JD wetland then you will need a Nationwide 404 Permit (prepare your butt-hole) unless the area is <0.2 acres of wetlands.

Posted by torrey225
Member since Mar 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:39 pm to
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It isn't like people are going around looking at every piece of wetlands.


Just FYI: My old job was me looking for wetland degradation in EBR. We used aerial photography. Someone is looking.
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
3508 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:40 pm to
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Anyone deal with wetlands on their property?


Only when my girlfriend is in mood....am I right fellas?!?!?
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
3508 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:41 pm to
Serious note, you don't deal with the Corps when it comes to wetlands. It's the EPA you need to deal with.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25240 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:45 pm to
That pond is sweet, I vote buy it and leave the wetlands alone.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4400 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:49 pm to
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Just FYI: My old job was me looking for wetland degradation in EBR. We used aerial photography. Someone is looking.


This. No matter how small you think your project is, they will find you. As someone said previously, a lot of people are ratted out by their neighbors. If they know the rules and either paid up or cancelled their projects and then see you skirting those rules, they will identify you to the proper authorities. Happens more than you'd think.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14350 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:54 pm to
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We are looking to buy a house that has some designated wetlands area as part of the property. Is there any way I can turn that property into usable land? The house is awesome and there is a pond, but the wetlands issue is a big concern for me.
you got some other property you can put up for trade - same size of the wetlands on your property? I had to do this back in 2005 - a tract of land off HWY 22 between Springfield and Rome Ferry that I wanted bring up to at least 2 ft above sea level - traded same size tract off of HWY 42 near Holden exit - I had to swear, promise first born child not to ever build on property of HWY 42, I still have ownership - which was mostly swamp anyway - there is an outfit that are experts in this around Springfield/Carter Plantation - not gonna name them might get ban hammer.They usually have properties listed in the Louisiana Sportsman under camps.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20403 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:07 pm to
I think I am going to lowball the bid and see if the seller takes it. I can use the wetland as an excuse.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53120 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:13 pm to
You people realize that the corps protects wetlands to keep our biodiversity and unique species alive right?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67212 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

We are looking to buy a house that has some designated wetlands area as part of the property. Is there any way I can turn that property into usable land? The house is awesome and there is a pond, but the wetlands issue is a big concern for me.


Mitigation is your issue. If you want to do anything with the land designated as a wetland (excavate, back-fill, grind stumps, add rocks, build anything, run utility lines, ect) you will need a permit from the Army Corps of Engineers as well as pay for mitigation or plant trees on other parts of your property.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:20 pm to
I worked for a company that did compliance consulting for wetland alteration and mitigation and let me tell you, it's a pain in the arse to deal with.

I didn't work directly in that department though. I was in cultural resources management which is also a pain in the arse.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:42 pm to
I just used my cousins dumptruck and brought in 15 loads of red clay dirt, problem solved
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