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re: Anyone deal with wetlands on their property?

Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:53 pm to
EPA owns your land. Deal with it and send a thank you card to Obama.
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3468 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:57 pm to
That looks like a small area, if you are filling less than a tenth of an acre and you already have a jurisdictional determination, read up on nationwide permit 18 for minor discharges.
Posted by HaveMercy
Member since Dec 2014
3000 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

No, I want to have the area dry so the rugrats can run around without getting muddy. I was thinking of putting in french drains.


So you are basically wanting to get rid of the "wetland" area?? Good luck with that in CT.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20376 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

That looks like a small area, if you are filling less than a tenth of an acre and you already have a jurisdictional determination, read up on nationwide permit 18 for minor discharges.


Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3468 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 4:29 pm to
I just saw that you are in CT, I haven't worked there, but I know several northeast states have local or regional wetlands groups that also have to be consulted in addition to the corps. Look up the local corps website and they can tell you about who else has regulatory authority.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65588 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 4:42 pm to
Colonel Christopher J. Barron (USACE) is the commanding officer for the Corps of Engineers' New England District.

His email address is christopher.j.barron@usace.army.mil .

He is a public servant, ask him what you should do.

LINK
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 4:44 pm to
You want to destroy the wetlands?

frick you.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136798 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

a house that has some designated wetlands area
jurisdiction determination by USACE on a small piece of residential land in New England

sounds improbable

was the land previously a portion of commercial development or government land?
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13847 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

Just FYI: My old job was me looking for wetland degradation in EBR. We used aerial photography. Someone is looking
commie rat
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56296 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

The EPA has released its Waters of the United States (WOTUS) rule critics say would allow the agency to regulate waterways previously not under federal jurisdiction, including puddles, ditches and isolated wetlands.
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LA congressmen spent years trying to correct these bullshite, overreaching policies and Obama and his EPA reversed it all in a heartbeat.

The horror stories of people having their own private property seized and others prevented from making use of it is infuriating. It's nothing more than governmental overreach and control.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 6:51 pm to
We're you looking for wetlands described by a JD or all lands? All lands are considered to be "wet" until deemed otherwise.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 6:53 pm to
Trust me. There are people looking via satellite every day. Do something they don't like and you can expect to see a government truck in your driveway
Posted by dunno coach
Brusly
Member since Nov 2019
1 post
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:18 pm to
If you are just wanting to buy property that may be wetlands but has not been determined wetlands, and are not planning on building on or developing said property, is mitigation involved?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:21 pm to
Probably at least a year to year and a half process to get a confirmed delineation approved to tell you what to do. Mitigation is expensive if necessary, look for another option unless you are fine with just the home and no other improvements
Posted by bamaswallows
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
1175 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:29 pm to
Honestly just underbrush everything and “ try “ not to cut down any trees. Cut small ditches to help drainage, and call it a day. They won’t do shite to you. If they do miraculously come calling, they’ll issue a cease and desist order and you can deal with it then. You are the smallest of small fish; they don’t have time to mess with you I promise.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:31 pm to
quote:


The posters who are telling you you can't do anything with that land are incorrect. Like I said before, you can fill in wetlands but it could be expensive because you might have to purchase mitigation credits. In Louisiana this process is run through the Department of Natural Resources, not the corps.




it actually runs through both. many/moststates issue section 401 certs and USACE issues the section 404 permit. it's really not a big deal to get a permit to fill small wetland areas. it's a NWP
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 9:37 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:32 pm to
quote:


If you are just wanting to buy property that may be wetlands but has not been determined wetlands, and are not planning on building on or developing said property, is mitigation involved?



mitigation is only involved if you disturb the area
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:34 pm to
quote:


LA congressmen spent years trying to correct these bullshite, overreaching policies and Obama and his EPA reversed it all in a heartbeat.

The horror stories of people having their own private property seized and others prevented from making use of it is infuriating. It's nothing more than governmental overreach and control.



it's not their private property though. so.. what is your point?
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8621 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:38 pm to
Never, ever admit to owning wetlands. Not in writing, not on the internet, not to people you don't know.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12714 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

Serious note, you don't deal with the Corps when it comes to wetlands. It's the EPA you need to deal with.

Just one of the many examples in this thread of how little people know about this shite.

OP, a word of advice--don't take advice on regulatory matters from anonymous jackasses on the internet. Half of the shite in this thread is wrong.

Now, take everything after this for what it is (advice from an internet jackass who worked on Section 404 permits for developers for two and a half years).

The Corps and EPA regulate wetlands, but you deal with the Corps for Section 404 permits.

Although you are not in LA, the guy claiming that you deal with DNR and not the Corps is wrong. The DNR is only involved in permits in the Coastal Zone.

Also, if you are only dealing with a property that is 1.62 acres, and the wetlands are a small portion, you may be able to clear those wetlands under a Nationwide Permit. Depending on the extent (typically less than half an acre), you can do the work without going through the drawn out permitting process. However, the NWP may require mitigation if impacts are over a tenth of an acre (this may vary), and in some places, you have to notify the Corps that you will be operating under an NWP.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 9:42 pm
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