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Anyone deal with wetlands on their property?
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:13 am
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:13 am
We are looking to buy a house that has some designated wetlands area as part of the property. Is there any way I can turn that property into usable land? The house is awesome and there is a pond, but the wetlands issue is a big concern for me.
TIA
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:14 am to MSTiger33
May have a hard time with insurance. I would look into that before anything.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:14 am to MSTiger33
You would have to apply for a coastal use permit if you are in the coastal zone and possibly pay mitigation.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 10:16 am
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:18 am to MSTiger33
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Is there any way I can turn that property into usable land?
I would stay away from the property. You are talking a long PIA process with the Corp of Engineers to accomplish this, and you might be denied at the end.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:19 am to MSTiger33
corps of engineers will be a PITA to deal with
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:22 am to MSTiger33
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Is there any way I can turn that property into usable land?
Short answer is no. Its a huge PITA
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:22 am to MSTiger33
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We are looking to buy a house that has some designated wetlands area as part of the property. Is there any way I can turn that property into usable land? The house is awesome and there is a pond, but the wetlands issue is a big concern for me.
TIA
I'd steer clear....
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The EPA has released its Waters of the United States (WOTUS) rule critics say would allow the agency to regulate waterways previously not under federal jurisdiction, including puddles, ditches and isolated wetlands.
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EPA Grants Itself Power To Regulate Ponds, Ditches, Puddles
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:22 am to MSTiger33
Stay away at all costs.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:23 am to MSTiger33
Good luck with your armed militia standoff in 20 years. 
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:25 am to Clyde Tipton
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:29 am to MSTiger33
The posters who are telling you you can't do anything with that land are incorrect. Like I said before, you can fill in wetlands but it could be expensive because you might have to purchase mitigation credits. In Louisiana this process is run through the Department of Natural Resources, not the corps.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:30 am to facher08
no one is saying you can't do anything with the land. Just that it is a huge PITA which it is and not worth the trouble.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:33 am to facher08
The property is in CT.
The total size of the property is 1.62 acres. A pond takes up most of the property so I am trying to make as much of the rest of the land as usable as possible for small children. The wetland portion is probably less than a quarter acre. The current owner has chickens and bees on that portion.
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Pond
Wetland area - kind of hard to see. It is back by the chicken coops and bee boxes. It is a little swampy.
The total size of the property is 1.62 acres. A pond takes up most of the property so I am trying to make as much of the rest of the land as usable as possible for small children. The wetland portion is probably less than a quarter acre. The current owner has chickens and bees on that portion.
ETA Pics
Pond
Wetland area - kind of hard to see. It is back by the chicken coops and bee boxes. It is a little swampy.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 10:40 am
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:40 am to facher08
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The posters who are telling you you can't do anything with that land are incorrect. Like I said before, you can fill in wetlands but it could be expensive because you might have to purchase mitigation credits. In Louisiana this process is run through the Department of Natural Resources, not the corps.
Oh he can buy the property and do anything he wants. Course the EPA can come in anytime they want and either straight up seize his land or tell him he's got to pay massive fines for harming the nesting grounds of the "endangered" two toed albino pygmy slug.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:46 am to MSTiger33
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The property is in CT.
No idea. With the water table in La being so high you can pretty much just spit somewhere and it can be declared a wetland. From what I remember (at least here in La) if you have other land that meets wetlands criteria but isn't designated as such you can try to get that classification shifted (we were able to do it years ago on our farm) to the other piece of land. No idea about CT though.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:58 am to MSTiger33
Are you building on the wetlands part?
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:58 am to MSTiger33
Like others have said, I think permission is required to "modify" the land, and that may come with a cost. I know if you try to reclaim any part of a bayou side or marsh area around a fishing camp in South LA, you need permission to do so and you will pay. If you don't get permission, they will eventually fine you.
What's wrong with leaving it like it is? Do you really need that space for anything in particular? Does it affect the rest of the property by being a "wetland"?
It's actually kind of nice to have these sometimes as it attracts a different kind of wildlife (ducks, etc.). As long as you don't need the space to build a structure or anything.
What's wrong with leaving it like it is? Do you really need that space for anything in particular? Does it affect the rest of the property by being a "wetland"?
It's actually kind of nice to have these sometimes as it attracts a different kind of wildlife (ducks, etc.). As long as you don't need the space to build a structure or anything.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:31 am to MSTiger33
My friend wanted a boardwalk through about 100' of Roseau Cane (wetlands) to put a dock on the lagoon behind his house in Slidell. He had also filled in an area to expand the yard. He had to pay a few grand in mitigation credits and a small fine because construction was started prior to approval.
You may be able to do it, but it may not by worth it after all costs are considered. That looks like a really nice place as it is.
You may be able to do it, but it may not by worth it after all costs are considered. That looks like a really nice place as it is.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:42 am to MSTiger33
Where is the property? That would determine which CORPS office you would end up having to deal with. What are you considering as "usable?" You cannot fill or alter the hydrology of s wetland without s permit from the CORPS. Considering the small size of the wetland area, if you were to convert it to "usable" land without a permit, it could be considered a minimal effect conversion. However, you could also be fined. The permit process is long and complicated. It all depends on what you intended to do. I don't know what affects having an inclusion of wetlands on property would have on insurance though. I'd look into that.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:48 am to BLIZZAKE7
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corps of engineers will be a PITA to deal with
This +1000. A buddy of mine was doing some dozer work to redo the fence line on his property that had wetlands. The corp found out and shut him down. He hasto have to pay to have a mitigation study just to push down some old growth and a fence.
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