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Decatur
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I thought he got the job just to leak these stories


Yes, he has specifically admitted that






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Godfather1
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SE Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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He put pictures of himself up


Well then, it wasn't all that anonymous now, was it?






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Revelator
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Maybe we should contrast what Senator Obama said he stood for and what president Obama has done? Do you really want to go there?





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Decatur
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Maybe we should contrast what Senator Obama said he stood for and what president Obama has done? Do you really want to go there?


On many occasions on here I've discussed Obama's vote for the 2008 FISA Amendments






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Revelator
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On many occasions on here I've discussed Obama's vote for the 2008 FISA Amendments



And that's the point. Maybe he changed his opinion after seeing the scope of the gov. spying?






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Decatur
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Maybe he changed his opinion after seeing the scope of the gov. spying?


He was a Senator at the time. I'm not sure what kind of point you are trying to make.






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BigJim
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Member since Jan 2010
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@decatur- thanks for the link.

I read a lot of "he downloaded crucial info" or "he has first hand info that could be damaging" I still didn't see anything he posted or leaked that was really that damaging; more just the potential to be damaging.







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Decatur
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still didn't see anything he posted or leaked that was really that damaging;


I'm not going to bore you by trying to impress upon you how serious this is already and how much more serious it will get. But I'm telling you this is some very serious stuff.






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thetempleowl
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I think what the government is doing with what amounts to little to no effective oversight except for slaps on the backs and wanting to get and store more data on US citizens is actually pretty serious stuff.

Let me ask you this decatur.

Do you think it is ok for the government to store everything you email, text, post on an internet sight, say on any kind of phone, store your gps data, store every websearch and site you have ever gone to ok?

When they have no reason to suspect you have done anything wrong?

I rather think that is pretty serious stuff.

Do you find it pretty serious that the release of these paper by snowden went through a british paper because no US media outlet really does much more than toe the government line?

Do you find it interesting that this data can be retroactively mined at any point if anyone in the government is upset at you and they could find something wrong that just about everyone has done?

In the light of how the IRS and other government agencies have been shown to come down hard on certain citizen political groups that the administration does not like, are you concerned about a government that could find everything about you since 2008? Remember that google search you did when you were 18 for pictures of naked women that your parents never found out about? The government knows.

Is any of this stuff pretty serious to you?







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thetempleowl
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And decatur, you know I usually don't side with the crazies on this board.





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Decatur
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Do you think it is ok for the government to store everything you email, text, post on an internet sight, say on any kind of phone, store your gps data, store every websearch and site you have ever gone to ok?


I just want them to operate within the law and oversight regime that Congress provides. So far I haven't seen anything else.

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When they have no reason to suspect you have done anything wrong?


They can't retain or disseminate any of my info that case. This is governed by executive order.

Edit: they can't retain any of my info that I have a reasonable expectation of privacy in. If I give out info to the public, they can take that info just like any other person or corporation can.

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Do you find it pretty serious that the release of these paper by snowden went through a british paper because no US media outlet really does much more than toe the government line?


He went to the Guardian because of Greenwald, not because they are a foreign paper. They have a New York bureau.

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Do you find it interesting that this data can be retroactively mined at any point if anyone in the government is upset at you and they could find something wrong that just about everyone has done?


Much more is involved than that. Besides, I'm not a terrorist or a foreign agent so I really don't have to worry about it. Y'all should be more concerned with what the FBI can do.



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Paluka
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Much more is involved than that. Besides, I'm not a terrorist or a foreign agent so I really don't have to worry about it. Y'all should be more concerned with what the FBI can do.


You're not considered a terrorist or foreign agent YET. Time just might change this!

As far as your OP I've tried to keep an open mind about all of this business. I don't want secrets given to other governments yet I am glad he leaked info for US citizens to know. The OP is pretty bad, Decatur. This stuff could have come from anywhere or anybody.






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