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What is a restaurants obligation when you are unsatisfied by a dish?
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:12 am
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:12 am
I was watching one of the Restaurant Stakeout episode's this weekend. I didn't watch the whole thing or remember the restaurant. Think it was on Long Island, an Italian joint. One of the tests was a customer who ordered a dish and ended up eating 1/2 then complaining to the server. The server appologized and offered to bring another dish, but the customer was in a hurry and declined.
When the server brought the check, the item was still on the bill. The customer complained and the server went back and removed the item.
My question, do you feel entitled to not have to pay for a meal you didn't enjoy? I'm not sure I would expect a free meal because I didn't like my dish. I'm not talking about kitchen error, just not being satisfied with your own choice. It's one thing for the restaurant to offer to take it off the bill, but would you request it to be removed after the bill arrived?
Curious on the F&D board's opinion. Did anyone see the episode?
When the server brought the check, the item was still on the bill. The customer complained and the server went back and removed the item.
My question, do you feel entitled to not have to pay for a meal you didn't enjoy? I'm not sure I would expect a free meal because I didn't like my dish. I'm not talking about kitchen error, just not being satisfied with your own choice. It's one thing for the restaurant to offer to take it off the bill, but would you request it to be removed after the bill arrived?
Curious on the F&D board's opinion. Did anyone see the episode?
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:15 am to Oenophile Brah
I don't think a dish should be comped solely because the diner didn't enjoy it.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:16 am to Oenophile Brah
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My question, do you feel entitled to not have to pay for a meal you didn't enjoy? I'm not sure I would expect a free meal because I didn't like my dish. I'm not talking about kitchen error, just not being satisfied with your own choice. It's one thing for the restaurant to offer to take it off the bill, but would you request it to be removed after the bill arrived?
if you made a bad choice you should be obligated to pay, if dish was shittilly put together and assembled THEN its on the house
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:16 am to Oenophile Brah
Something would have to be really terrible (like spoiled ingredients) and/or very inaccurately described on the menu for me to ever think about asking for it to be removed. I just wouldn't order the item again or, in severe cases, would avoid the restaurant altogether.
This post was edited on 5/20/13 at 10:17 am
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:18 am to Politiceaux
I could see if you had taken 1 bite and something was wrong. But if you eat half of it, then you pay for it. You couldnt have disliked it that much if you ate half of the dish.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:18 am to Oenophile Brah
I've been watching a few episodes of Kitchen Nightmares recently and had the same line of thought... they'll show a night before the makeover and it seems like every single patron is sending their meal back or trying to get it comped... how does the restaurant even survive long enough to get Ramsay in there if that's really the case?
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:22 am to Oenophile Brah
I'm not the type of person to send back a dish or bitch at a server. I would just pay my bill and never return. Then I would come on here in post a thread.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:26 am to TigerWise
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I'm not the type of person to send back a dish or bitch at a server. I would just pay my bill and never return. Then I would come on here in post a thread.
I've never sent back a dish in my life. Just muster through it or act like I wasn't too hungry. I've never bitched at a server either. However, I often wonder if it would be better for the restaurant if I discussed what was wrong with my meal so that they could fix their problems instead of me just smiling and never returning.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:30 am to Oenophile Brah
If you have eaten 1/2 it seems to me your objection takes on a very weak status. A bite or two is all your taste buds should need to take to say "blech" to food.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:31 am to Blue Velvet
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However, I often wonder if it would be better for the restaurant if I discussed what was wrong with my meal so that they could fix their problems instead of me just smiling and never returning.
I have discussed problems with food before with a server or cook. I would do it in private, but it's important that restaurants hear some complaints. IMO.
I brought this up, because the head guy said the disliked dish should always be removed from the bill. I was surprised to hear that.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:32 am to Blue Velvet
The only thing I've ever sent back, and still do, are french fries if they're brought out to me cold. There's no excuse for serving cold french fries.. and to me they're disgusting.
A Lafayette restaurant owner's son is a fraternity brother of mine.. and he grew up working in his dad's restaurants.. If he orders a sandwich and it takes more than 15 minutes for the sandwich comes out, he gives the server holy hell.. I'm not joking.. It's ugly.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:39 am to Oenophile Brah
quote:I agree. I just haven't done that yet.
have discussed problems with food before with a server or cook. I would do it in private, but it's important that restaurants hear some complaints. IMO.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:45 am to Oenophile Brah
I have had lots of restaurant meals that were unsatisfying and not to my expectations. I have never asked for my money back. I have sent wine back, and never had the sommelier question my rejection. There are a few restaurants I would not go back to because service or food was too much sub-par for what they charged.
Had a business friend send back a $250.00 bottle of wine once at an excellent French Restaurant in Chicago (Wheeling). The sommelier came over, took a sniff, said he could smell the problem, took a taste and apologized. He sent it back and had a new bottle brought out. It was not comped since they replaced it. IMO, with older wines, One never knows for certain until it is uncorked.
Had a business friend send back a $250.00 bottle of wine once at an excellent French Restaurant in Chicago (Wheeling). The sommelier came over, took a sniff, said he could smell the problem, took a taste and apologized. He sent it back and had a new bottle brought out. It was not comped since they replaced it. IMO, with older wines, One never knows for certain until it is uncorked.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:57 am to Oenophile Brah
If you did this for every complaint, black people would put you out of business
Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:59 am to Deactived
college drive chilis in baton rouge @ 9:30 pm on a saturday night, i guarantee more dishes get comped there than anywhere in the world
Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:00 am to Ignignot
Do they at least tip well for the free meals?
Lol...?
Lol...?
Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:03 am to TigerWise
quote:I do this. Then I get bashed for it.
I'm not the type of person to send back a dish or bitch at a server. I would just pay my bill and never return. Then I would come on here in post a thread.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:03 am to Oenophile Brah
Only thing I have sent back is a steak when it comes out too raw. If it is overcooked i'll eat it and just be done with it, but if it is undercooked no reason they can't go back and cook it for a few more minutes.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:03 am to Oenophile Brah
Unless there was an element within the dish that was full all out fail, no, I don't think it should be comped.
If you order a steak for example mid rare, and it comes to you mid well, then yes. I think they should either cook another steak or comp it.
If you order a dish where the sauce is broken and becomes garbage, or overlooked or perhaps it's just plain nasty like calling what has now become a simple syrup for all practice purposes a citrus infused beurre blanc, then yes, that's a fail.
That being said, if you order a pasta dish and in meets the definition of what is textbook or close enough, and it doesn't measure up to what the customer is expecting or accustomed to having when they order that dish, then no. There is no argument. You can't blame the kitchen for other people's failings or misrepresentations of the dish, and whether you prefer it this way or that way is not the responsibility of the restaurant.
There are of course obvious cases where restaurants fail, and it happens often, but on the other hand, there are some customers who, in the words of Marco Pierre White, need to be fired.
If you order a steak for example mid rare, and it comes to you mid well, then yes. I think they should either cook another steak or comp it.
If you order a dish where the sauce is broken and becomes garbage, or overlooked or perhaps it's just plain nasty like calling what has now become a simple syrup for all practice purposes a citrus infused beurre blanc, then yes, that's a fail.
That being said, if you order a pasta dish and in meets the definition of what is textbook or close enough, and it doesn't measure up to what the customer is expecting or accustomed to having when they order that dish, then no. There is no argument. You can't blame the kitchen for other people's failings or misrepresentations of the dish, and whether you prefer it this way or that way is not the responsibility of the restaurant.
There are of course obvious cases where restaurants fail, and it happens often, but on the other hand, there are some customers who, in the words of Marco Pierre White, need to be fired.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:04 am to Oenophile Brah
No obligation unless the food smelled or tasted spoiled.
maybe some instances where food really needed to be served hot and wasn't.
eating half and expecting comp isn't going to happen.
maybe some instances where food really needed to be served hot and wasn't.
eating half and expecting comp isn't going to happen.
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