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Von Miller comparison = Clay Matthews?
Posted on 1/15/11 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 1/15/11 at 9:58 pm
?
This post was edited on 1/15/11 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 1/15/11 at 9:58 pm to 504Saint
he seems smaller than matthews
Posted on 1/15/11 at 10:24 pm to St Augustine
Clay Matthews is a goober. They had him miked up in the Philly game and I have heard better trash talk in an Upwards girls basketball game.
This post was edited on 1/15/11 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 1/17/11 at 5:00 pm to Rollie Fingers
I like Von Miller a lot . He is what we need. At 6'3 he is a tall LB and he has great speed coming off the edge. He will be great blitzing off the edge in the NFL.
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 1/17/11 at 5:19 pm to KG5989
I have him on the no way he'll be around at #24 list
Posted on 1/17/11 at 7:57 pm to hsfolk
We need a LB that doesn't suck in coverage and although VM is a beast he certainly doesn't have the best coverage skills.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 12:07 pm to hobo with a rolex
Von Miller seems to be a great prospect as outside pass rushing OLB in a 3-4 defense. His skill set does NOT fit what is asked of an OLB in a 4-3 which is what we run. If Von Miller was available at #24, which is highly unlikely, we still would not draft him because he DOES NOT fit our scheme. Unless the team makes the switch to a 3-4, which I highly doubt, then we will never draft a Von Miller or a Von Miller type OLB.
In order for him to be able to rush the passer in our 4-3, Miller would have to play DE & he's too small to play DE. Our OLB's have to thrive in pass coverage & reading & reacting to run. In the 3-4, OLB's main objective is to rush the passer & sometimes drop back & cover a small zone. That's what Miller's skill set is better suited for.
So all the hopes & dreams about a Clay Matthews type or Von Miller type on our defenses, just forget about it. Its not going to happen unless we find an outstanding pass rushing DE. In the Dome Patrol days Miller would have been a great fit, now not so much. So please stop with the Von Miller talk.
In order for him to be able to rush the passer in our 4-3, Miller would have to play DE & he's too small to play DE. Our OLB's have to thrive in pass coverage & reading & reacting to run. In the 3-4, OLB's main objective is to rush the passer & sometimes drop back & cover a small zone. That's what Miller's skill set is better suited for.
So all the hopes & dreams about a Clay Matthews type or Von Miller type on our defenses, just forget about it. Its not going to happen unless we find an outstanding pass rushing DE. In the Dome Patrol days Miller would have been a great fit, now not so much. So please stop with the Von Miller talk.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 1:58 pm to 504Saint
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Von Miller
You mean the guy that JJ straight ran around?
I'll give credit where credit is due, but outside of one sack, I thought Miller got handeled in that game.
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:08 pm to mule74
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Von Miller seems to be a great prospect as outside pass rushing OLB in a 3-4 defense. His skill set does NOT fit what is asked of an OLB in a 4-3 which is what we run. If Von Miller was available at #24, which is highly unlikely, we still would not draft him because he DOES NOT fit our scheme. Unless the team makes the switch to a 3-4, which I highly doubt, then we will never draft a Von Miller or a Von Miller type OLB.
Saints have lined up in the 3-4 in games under Greg Williams the past two seasons, and even ran it exclusively in a few games fyi
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we still would not draft him because he DOES NOT fit our scheme
Lol, yeah right because we would never draft a big, athletic, fast, and versatile LB... Would be totally out of the question for Saints management... Or maybe not
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:08 pm to P bean
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and even ran it exclusively in a few games fyi
This shite is fricking good.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:12 pm to Chad504boy
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This shite is fricking good.
So you dont recall seeing the saints line up in the 3-4 for an entire game this season, because it happened arse-clown...
Not only was it mentioned in the game, but was talked about in the paper the next day... Greg Williams likes the 3-4 and has run it with other teams he coached previous to joining the saints, and has run it a little with the saints as well...
Get your facts straight
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:14 pm to P bean
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So you dont recall seeing the saints line up in the 3-4 for an entire game this season, because it happened arse-clown...
Not only was it mentioned in the game, but was talked about in the paper the next day... Greg Williams likes the 3-4 and has run it with other teams he coached previous to joining the saints exclusively, and has run it a little with the saints as well...
Maybe i had my head up my arse... can anyone confirm we played an entire game in the 3-4 this year?
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:27 pm to Chad504boy
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Maybe i had my head up my arse... can anyone confirm we played an entire game in the 3-4 this year?
Maybe you did, here's last year's article after we smoked Buffalo
LINK
At least make sure you're right about something before you flame on people dude.
Like I said, saints and GW are not afraid to use the 3-4 and may line up in a 3-4 from time to time in games... In this game and a few others, we ran it almost the entire game
LINK
This article talks about it hurting us in SB vs. Colts where we ran a 3 man dline
LINK
Here's another...
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:32 pm to P bean
To keep the record straight, it wasn't a 3-4 the entire game. Multiple packages were used and flopped the entire game including 5 db's.
ETA: You said this year, what game this year?
ETA: You said this year, what game this year?
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:36 pm to Chad504boy
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To keep the record straight, it wasn't a 3-4 the entire game. Multiple packages were used and flopped the entire game including 5 db's.
The record is straight Chadboy, a 3man dline was used the entire game versus Buffalo, sometimes with 4 lbs and sometimes with 3lb and an extra db, but was a 3 man front the entire football game...
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ETA: You said this year, what game this year?
I dont remember, did not find a link but I think the other 3 links I provided are sufficient, like I said the saint can and will run a 3-4 and will do it the entire game if GW wants to, and we have done it before...
Know what your talking about before you flame, just some advice for the future
:spank: :spank:
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:38 pm to P bean
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The record is straight Chadboy, a 3man dline was used the entire game versus Buffalo, sometimes with 4 lbs and sometimes with 3lb and an extra db, but was a 3 man front the entire football game...
So we have never used a 3-4 for an entire game and there was no game this year where we ran an exclusive 3 man DL front?
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Know what your talking about before you flame, just some advice for the future
You didn't give one accurate fricking statement. Eat your words.
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:41 pm to Chad504boy
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So we have never used a 3-4 for an entire game and there was no game this year where we ran an exclusive 3 man DL front?
why would anyone run a 3-4 for an entire game you idiot what about when the offense lines up in a four and five WR set, are we still gonna stay with 4 DBs on the field? No, thats why the article said we ran a 3-4 and a 3-3-5 all game long dumbass
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You didn't give one accurate fricking statement. Eat your words.
Yeh right moron, ok the saints dont run a 3-4 and will not do it. Even though they do, lol what an idiot
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:42 pm to P bean
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why would anyone run a 3-4 for an entire game you idiot what about when the offense lines up in a four and five WR set, are we still gonna stay with 4 DBs on the field? No, thats why the article said we ran a 3-4 and a 3-3-5 all game long dummbass
You said it, not me.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:44 pm to P bean
I really want Von Miller! We should also get Casey Matthew and completly change our pass rush.
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