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re: Von Miller comparison = Clay Matthews?
Posted on 1/18/11 at 7:28 pm to blueslover
Posted on 1/18/11 at 7:28 pm to blueslover
Stephen Paea, DT is probably our guy. especially because of his size. plug him right next to big sed.
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Posted on 1/18/11 at 7:36 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
Quote: Stephen Paea, DT is probably our guy. especially because of his size. plug him right next to big sed. Quote
I could see us takn a DT as well, I think anywhere in the front seven could be a possibile position that we could draft in the 1st
I could see us takn a DT as well, I think anywhere in the front seven could be a possibile position that we could draft in the 1st
Posted on 1/18/11 at 7:39 pm to Rollie Fingers
Forget about his trash talk. The name of the game is football. His job is to play defense and sack the QB and he does a helluva job.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 7:52 pm to P bean
No shite Sherlock that a 3-3-5 is a nickel defense. The point I was making is that just because we may have only had 3 D-Lineman on the field DOES NOT mean we ran a 3-4 the entire game. Once again you have not proven anywhere that we ran a 3-4 the entire game against Buffalo or any other game for that matter. What I do see is that you are interpreting what's said in those articles incorrectly.
In those articles it said the defense ran multiple sets not just 3-4 or dime packages. You are ASSUMING that all those sets were out of a 3-4 formation but nowhere does it state that as being the case.
You want to pull two articles of two games out of your arse & are sold that our defense plays more 3-4 then you are mistaken. We don't have the personnel to consistantly run a 3-4 & I don't why you can't that though your hard arse head.
I know for a fact the Gregg Williams has used 3-4 spacing & slants with the D-Line this year especially in short yardage & goaline situations. Its the main reason we were so stout in those situations. Maybe you were mistaking that for us running more actual 3-4 formations. If you don't know the difference between D-Lineman spacing & slant techniques compared to actual formations, then you need to find something else to discuss online. Since its winter & there's plenty of snow around the country, you should try the skiing message boards. They should be hot right now. You can blend in there & pretend you about skiing also.
In those articles it said the defense ran multiple sets not just 3-4 or dime packages. You are ASSUMING that all those sets were out of a 3-4 formation but nowhere does it state that as being the case.
You want to pull two articles of two games out of your arse & are sold that our defense plays more 3-4 then you are mistaken. We don't have the personnel to consistantly run a 3-4 & I don't why you can't that though your hard arse head.
I know for a fact the Gregg Williams has used 3-4 spacing & slants with the D-Line this year especially in short yardage & goaline situations. Its the main reason we were so stout in those situations. Maybe you were mistaking that for us running more actual 3-4 formations. If you don't know the difference between D-Lineman spacing & slant techniques compared to actual formations, then you need to find something else to discuss online. Since its winter & there's plenty of snow around the country, you should try the skiing message boards. They should be hot right now. You can blend in there & pretend you about skiing also.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 8:47 pm to P bean
Where the frick did I say Williams wasn't creative in his game planning? That's who he is & that's all he ever will be. He's always looking to confuse & cause chaos with his formations & ability to blitz from different positions in those formations. That's why Sean Payton went to of his way to bring Williams to New Orleans.
Your dumbass is taking one fricking article & about last year's game against Buffalo & the Super Bowl, to say we use a 3-4 more then our base 4-3. Of course Williams plotted up a scheme during training camp to embarrass Buffalo. Why??? Because he was hell bent on destroying them because they fired as head coach a few seasons before that. He had that game circled on the calender when he arrived in New Orleans. The reason he did it against Indy was obvious. You better show Peyton Manning different looks or he will carve you up.
In the article it refers to the defense "running a hybrid from a 3-4 base " & you obviously are mistaking that we run everything from a 3-4 base. You sir, are incorrectly reading your own info that YOU are supplying. All that article does is break down some of the muliple alignments that Williams uses including "hybrid 3-4 formations" against Buffalo & Indy. Nowhere does it say the defense has made complete change to a 3-4.
If you can't read correctly then I'm sorry for you. You obviously have a reading comprehsion disability when it actually comes to deciphering what you read to what it actually means. You should seek help to correct that issue. It seems like that could hold you back from getting where you want to be life....... That's if you have any ambitions inside of you.
Your dumbass is taking one fricking article & about last year's game against Buffalo & the Super Bowl, to say we use a 3-4 more then our base 4-3. Of course Williams plotted up a scheme during training camp to embarrass Buffalo. Why??? Because he was hell bent on destroying them because they fired as head coach a few seasons before that. He had that game circled on the calender when he arrived in New Orleans. The reason he did it against Indy was obvious. You better show Peyton Manning different looks or he will carve you up.
In the article it refers to the defense "running a hybrid from a 3-4 base " & you obviously are mistaking that we run everything from a 3-4 base. You sir, are incorrectly reading your own info that YOU are supplying. All that article does is break down some of the muliple alignments that Williams uses including "hybrid 3-4 formations" against Buffalo & Indy. Nowhere does it say the defense has made complete change to a 3-4.
If you can't read correctly then I'm sorry for you. You obviously have a reading comprehsion disability when it actually comes to deciphering what you read to what it actually means. You should seek help to correct that issue. It seems like that could hold you back from getting where you want to be life....... That's if you have any ambitions inside of you.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:57 am to BigBrod81
checking in.... has p bean shown a game where we've played the 3-4 in entirety yet?
Posted on 1/19/11 at 10:18 am to Chad504boy
Nope, he hasn't yet!
Posted on 1/19/11 at 10:38 am to BigBrod81
quote:
Where the frick did I say Williams wasn't creative in his game planning? That's who he is & that's all he ever will be. He's always looking to confuse & cause chaos with his formations & ability to blitz from different positions in those formations. That's why Sean Payton went to of his way to bring Williams to New Orleans.
You ask where you said that?
quote:
Making the change or running more 3-4 sets is more complicated then you think & can lead to players developing bad habits in the base 4-3. Its not just an adjustment for the LB's but the D-Line responsibilities change also in the 3-4. That's why Williams limits the packages he uses. He's also limited to the 3-4 use because we don't have the personnel to use it anymore then he already does.
You said it on page 2 of this thread, Im done with you idiots...
We ran a 3-4 base package instead of a 4-3, and GW swithces between both alignments in games, but we usually go with the 4-3... On passing downs we run a nickel or dime its simple... I already stated that I didnt mean that we ran the 3-4 the entire game, I meant our base package, why would we run 4db's when the other team puts 3,4,5 WR in the game, that is obvious so what is so hard to understand, if you cant read and figure it out then thats your problem morons...
LINK
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"The Saints run more of a hybrid look from a 3-4 base, but defensive coordinator Gregg Williams will throw anything at an enemy offense -- zone blitzes, 4-4 linebacker/safety combos, and dime blitzes with six defensive backs on the field. With only three linemen on the field, that's one more defender to move around and create confusion. This is a hallmark of Dick LeBeau's defenses in Pittsburgh and Rex Ryan's in New York and"
LINK
quote:
"Williams loves to blitz, and he runs as much man coverage as anyone in the league. He has become extremely adept at moving between three- and four-man fronts."
And you say this....
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Nowhere does it say the defense has made complete change to a 3-4.
No shite you dumb MF I never once said we were... Simply said that we ran it exclusively in games before, and Chadboy took that as me saying we ONLY ran the 3-4 in the game...
I already posted in this thread that I meant we ran a 3-4 base instead of a 4-3 base, and ran 3-3-5 on passing downs, instead of a 4-2-5.... Point is GW would use a guy like Von Miller quite nicely, that was the topic of this thread remember...
You and Chadboy are just some internet flames...All you both want to do is flame and argue...
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 11:05 am
Posted on 1/19/11 at 10:47 am to P bean
Chadboy and Bigbrod are you guys girlfreinds or something you seem to really piggyback each other here....Its like you havn't read the articles I've posted or what I said in this thread, and dont even remember the stupid shite you have said even when I quote you on it....
Or maybe ya'll are just two dorks on the internet who look for internet squabbles...
Last quote and post I'll make on this thread, you win buddy, your awesome. What is this Mortal Kombat? lol
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Or maybe ya'll are just two dorks on the internet who look for internet squabbles...
quote:
You are trying to insinuate anything to defeat me.
Last quote and post I'll make on this thread, you win buddy, your awesome. What is this Mortal Kombat? lol
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 10:48 am
Posted on 1/19/11 at 10:54 am to P bean
quote:
P bean
You post false statements.
I laugh at you.
You post articles that aren't proving what you claimed.
You change your story.
You still haven't proven what you claimed.
I defeat you. Game over.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 10:58 am to Chad504boy
quote:
I defeat you. Game over.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 
:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:Posted on 1/19/11 at 11:12 am to P bean
Yes I said Williams is limited to how many 3-4 packages he can run but it has nothing to do with his creativity but more to do with personnel.
P bean, it should be P brain because you are a dead brain muthafricka! Your ability to read & comprehend is straight garbage!
You make no frickin sense & obviously don't watch or don't pay much attention to the Saints games. If we were running so much frickin 3-4, you never see Alex Brown & Will Smith on the field because there are no DE's in the 3-4 set. Those guys were always on the frickin field this season, so that tells me that we barely ran any damn 3-4.
Its funny how you keep bleeding the same lame arse article & keep getting the same dumb bull shite from it, while Chad & I read the same article & get something totally different from it. To me, that tells me that you suffer from some kind of learning disorder or you are just frickin dumb. I done with your retarted arse because it doesn't seem like you are going to get any brighter anytime soon.
P bean, it should be P brain because you are a dead brain muthafricka! Your ability to read & comprehend is straight garbage!
You make no frickin sense & obviously don't watch or don't pay much attention to the Saints games. If we were running so much frickin 3-4, you never see Alex Brown & Will Smith on the field because there are no DE's in the 3-4 set. Those guys were always on the frickin field this season, so that tells me that we barely ran any damn 3-4.
Its funny how you keep bleeding the same lame arse article & keep getting the same dumb bull shite from it, while Chad & I read the same article & get something totally different from it. To me, that tells me that you suffer from some kind of learning disorder or you are just frickin dumb. I done with your retarted arse because it doesn't seem like you are going to get any brighter anytime soon.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 11:17 am to BigBrod81
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If we were running so much frickin 3-4, you never see Alex Brown & Will Smith on the field because there are no DE's in the 3-4 set. Those guys were always on the frickin field this season, so that tells me that we barely ran any damn 3-4.
If either alex brown or Will smith takes a hand off the ground and takes a step back they are no longer lined up as a DE but as a 4th LB you idiot.... And both of them did that quite often in games, man your an idiot apparently you just watch the games but have NO CLUE what is going on....
oh and p.s. there are 2 DE in the 3-4 set quote:
You make no frickin sense & obviously don't watch or don't pay much attention to the Saints games.
You have proven that you are clueless... I guess you dont get whats goin on out there...
quote:
ts funny how you keep bleeding the same lame arse article & keep getting the same dumb bull shite from it
Its funny how you dont know squat about what your arguing about, but keep piggybacking Chadboy because your his GF...lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
:bow: Dont worry once Chadboy stops flaming he'll explain it to you, I help my GF understand the game all the time... You girls need to learn how to play nice :lol: :lol:
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 11:22 am
Posted on 1/19/11 at 11:52 am to P bean
Smith & Brown always lined up with their hand in the ground this season, so I don't know what the frick you were looking at.
Not only can't you frickin read but your vision seems to be fricked up too. You see shite that's not even there. Keep trying, you just continue to make yourself look like a retard everytime you post.
I feel sorry for your parents for having to raise & put up with a "slow" son.
BTW, I don't need anyone to have my back. I can handle your retarded arse by myself. Chad just realizes you are a dumbass too.
Not only can't you frickin read but your vision seems to be fricked up too. You see shite that's not even there. Keep trying, you just continue to make yourself look like a retard everytime you post.
I feel sorry for your parents for having to raise & put up with a "slow" son.
BTW, I don't need anyone to have my back. I can handle your retarded arse by myself. Chad just realizes you are a dumbass too.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 1:49 pm to BigBrod81
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Smith & Brown always lined up with their hand in the ground this season, so I don't know what the frick you were looking at.
No they didnt...
quote:
I feel sorry for your parents for having to raise & put up with a "slow" son.
Whatever MF :lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:20 pm to P bean
Yeah "whatever" is a answer all loser muthafrickas like you use when backed into a damn corner.
Mommy & Daddy must be proud to have a loser boy like you as a son.
Mommy & Daddy must be proud to have a loser boy like you as a son.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:26 pm to BigBrod81
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:38 pm to blueslover
Posted on 1/19/11 at 4:24 pm to BigBrod81
quote:
Yeah "whatever" is a answer all loser muthafrickas like you use when backed into a damn corner. Mommy & Daddy must be proud to have a loser boy like you as a son.
Please your probably a fat bastard with a keyboard you dont know who I am or what I do, besides I said whatever to your statement about my parents not your lame halfwit football arguments
Besides, talk shite and ignore the facts is what a loser mf like you is currently doing... you've tried to talk about my mom and dad and whether they are proud of me three times already, lol... Is that all you got, clearly you are running out of B.S. to spit out you internet badass... And you still dont know squat about what you've been trying to argue, not to mention have contradicted yourself several times and after I call you on it, you then talk about my parents... Nice
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:spank: :spank: You say:
quote:
If we were running so much frickin 3-4, you never see Alex Brown & Will Smith on the field because there are no DE's in the 3-4 set. Those guys were always on the frickin field this season, so that tells me that we barely ran any damn 3-4.
I said:
quote:
If either alex brown or Will smith takes a hand off the ground and takes a step back they are no longer lined up as a DE but as a 4th LB you idiot.... And both of them did that quite often in games, man your an idiot apparently you just watch the games but have NO CLUE what is going on.... oh and p.s. there are 2 DE in the 3-4 set
Then you say:
quote:
Smith & Brown always lined up with their hand in the ground this season, so I don't know what the frick you were looking at.
I feel sorry for your parents for having to raise & put up with a "slow" son.
Then I said:
quote:
No they didnt...
P.S. If you have never seen the saints DE's do this while watching games, then you clearly dont know what's going on MFer... Our ends dont always line up with a hand down on the line of scrimmage... we have done this as far back as Mcrary LINK "Williams loves to blitz, and he runs as much man coverage as anyone in the league. He has become extremely adept at moving between three- and four-man fronts."
Then your response is:
quote:
Yeah "whatever" is a answer all loser muthafrickas like you use when backed into a damn corner. Mommy & Daddy must be proud to have a loser boy like you as a son.
I said whatever to your post about my parents not your inept arguments about the saints D, you don know squat you loser you just want to argue lollolol
Now tell me who's addressing football discussion with actual links etc and who's being an internet flame :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 1/19/11 at 6:32 pm to P bean
Proof you just want to flame...
You posted
:Quote:Your dumbass is taking one fricking article & about last year's game against Buffalo & the Super Bowl, to say we use a 3-4 more then our base 4-3.:quote:
never said that dumbass...
You said
:Quote:In the article it refers to the defense "running a hybrid from a 3-4 base " & you obviously are mistaking that we run everything from a 3-4 base:Quote:
I said from the begining we are primarily a 4-3 base team, but we have run a 3-4base over the 4-3 in games before...point was merely that von miller could play as a LB in either formation and would b useful to us...
You said
:Quote:If you can't read correctly then I'm sorry for you:quote:
apparently you can read MF, bc you're coming up with shite that I never posted...
You posted
:Quote:Your dumbass is taking one fricking article & about last year's game against Buffalo & the Super Bowl, to say we use a 3-4 more then our base 4-3.:quote:
never said that dumbass...
You said
:Quote:In the article it refers to the defense "running a hybrid from a 3-4 base " & you obviously are mistaking that we run everything from a 3-4 base:Quote:
I said from the begining we are primarily a 4-3 base team, but we have run a 3-4base over the 4-3 in games before...point was merely that von miller could play as a LB in either formation and would b useful to us...
You said
:Quote:If you can't read correctly then I'm sorry for you:quote:
apparently you can read MF, bc you're coming up with shite that I never posted...
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 6:44 pm
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