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re: We Probably Dodged a Nuclear Disaster with Herman
Posted on 12/18/16 at 3:30 pm to Geauxst Writer
Posted on 12/18/16 at 3:30 pm to Geauxst Writer
I'm not even saying I wish we would of got him, but to not be impressed by what he accomplished at Houston and as an OC at Ohio state takes a special kind of individual. Now to say he's the next urban Meyer is a bit much but to say we avoided a disaster by not getting him is crazy with everything on his resume. I just hope your not the same ignorant person that said bill Snyder has never accomplished anything.
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 3:46 pm to LSU Jax
Beautifully stated..
And frick Herman for using us as a negotiating tool
And frick Herman for using us as a negotiating tool
Posted on 12/18/16 at 3:47 pm to beauxroux
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He's the next urban Meyer,
Posted on 12/18/16 at 3:56 pm to Upslope
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He's the next urban Meyer
Houston had the most talented team in the AAC this year. I think Urban Meyer would have done better than finish in sixth place.
Herman was the sixth best coach in his conference this year with the best team. He is NO Urban Meyer or Nick Saban. I don't like the Longhorns and am glad they got the one-year-wonder.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:02 pm to Tiger Ree
Meyer finished both years at Bowling Green 3rd in his division. So that notion is dumb.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:42 pm to Geauxst Writer
Don't know. But Houston was highly overrated.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:07 pm to Geauxst Writer
Herman seemed to coach better against the P5 teams than he coached against his conference. I don't thnk after his success and subsequent annoitment of "next great young prodigy" he put as much emphasis on winning against his conference as he did beating the big boys. I wanted him at LSU, but I think he has a better chance of success earlier at Texas because of competition. I do now think IF Coach O manages, hires and recruits like he says he will LSU will be better off.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:08 pm to Upslope
The next Urban Meyer? Lol! Y'all are a lot more impressed with him than recruits are.
Only 7 commits and most of the big time Texas guys aren't even going visit. Losing Moses and Allen would be the least of our worries if we had hired him.
Only 7 commits and most of the big time Texas guys aren't even going visit. Losing Moses and Allen would be the least of our worries if we had hired him.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:13 pm to Geauxst Writer
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Herman is an over-hyped good young coach that will not realize his potential as fast as many of you think he will, his 2016 team was inconsistent playing in a crap league, and that I really don't like his offense for LSU or the SEC.
Ahh, but you see, that's his deal, he changes. He called it "square peg in round hole" during his hiring press conference at TEXAS.
Last time Herman faced the SEC, didn't he run roughshod over y'all? Was it the Sugar Bowl? I'm sure someone will know.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:28 pm to Midtiger farm
I see the pumpers are out in full effect.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:33 pm to tigercreole
For those of you who disagree with my opinion that Herman is overrated and we are better off by not hiring him, you act like kids and mental midgets by resorting to name calling of anybody who disagrees with you. Read more and grow a better vocabulary. On Herman:
1. He didn't want to be at LSU or in Louisiana, played us to get his dream school, and seems like he and his hot wife may have been cultural misfits in S. La. We are different -- remember.
2. He is the next in line, overhyped, without a long HC track record coaching prophet much like many on this board ball lick who's star eventually falls. Rich Rod, Kelly, Patterson, Muschamp, Strong, and probably Kirby Smart in a year or two if Georgia doesn't improve from the crap show this year.
3. I don't like his offense or defensive schemes, and his team regressed this year in a second tier league.
4. From people I know in Houston and also from input on this board, he was not a very well thought of coach in the Cougar locker room --- which sometimes shows up in hot and cold on field performances.
None of us nor does anyone ever know for sure if a new coach will succeed. I don't. Having been involved with LSU football for 40 years, the vibe and energy along the Gulf Coast, within the program, with the player alumni, with the HS coaches along I-10 ----- most are very pleased with the O hire. With 2 great coordinators and some expected success, he has a chance to become a great hire at LSU. From my view, a better chance of winning consistently and big over time than a hyped wiz kid who wishes that he was at Texas, USCw, or tOSU more than coaching at LSU.
1. He didn't want to be at LSU or in Louisiana, played us to get his dream school, and seems like he and his hot wife may have been cultural misfits in S. La. We are different -- remember.
2. He is the next in line, overhyped, without a long HC track record coaching prophet much like many on this board ball lick who's star eventually falls. Rich Rod, Kelly, Patterson, Muschamp, Strong, and probably Kirby Smart in a year or two if Georgia doesn't improve from the crap show this year.
3. I don't like his offense or defensive schemes, and his team regressed this year in a second tier league.
4. From people I know in Houston and also from input on this board, he was not a very well thought of coach in the Cougar locker room --- which sometimes shows up in hot and cold on field performances.
None of us nor does anyone ever know for sure if a new coach will succeed. I don't. Having been involved with LSU football for 40 years, the vibe and energy along the Gulf Coast, within the program, with the player alumni, with the HS coaches along I-10 ----- most are very pleased with the O hire. With 2 great coordinators and some expected success, he has a chance to become a great hire at LSU. From my view, a better chance of winning consistently and big over time than a hyped wiz kid who wishes that he was at Texas, USCw, or tOSU more than coaching at LSU.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:49 pm to Geauxst Writer
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Like you. His offense and philosophy has underwhelmed me and is the basic offense that about 2/5th of the college programs use -- Soft. I like the more traditional diversified pro style that Canada is going to bring. Every year, the new can't miss coaching prophets are hyped ridiculously. I also think that PJ Fleck is an ADD corn pone, and would not fit in well in S. Louisiana.
His offense and philosophy destroyed big 10 records on a yearly basis, beat Nick Saban with a 3rd string QB getting his 2nd start, and won a national championship.
At the FCS level in his first year as QB/OC, his explosive offense led Texas St to their first ever playoffs and the QB was 5th for the FCS version of a heisman. They were first in total offense in their conference, and 8th nationally in scoring offense.
At Rice in his second year, his offense led the team to a 10-3 record, up from 3-9 the previous year. His QB passed for over 4100 yards and 44 TDs, and ran for 700 yards and 12 TDs.
The guy destroyed a much better Navy team by 21 last year. He beat Petrino, Fisher, and Stoops with talent that comes nowhere near theirs. He's had to deal with losing most of his good players from last year, and many players this year were injured.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:33 pm to bmy
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Herman
Overrated.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 9:25 pm to blzr
He's a good coach but I sure want him to suck!
Posted on 12/18/16 at 9:54 pm to Geauxst Writer
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We are different -- remember.
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From my view, a better chance of winning consistently and big over time than a hyped wiz kid who wishes that he was at Texas, USCw, or tOSU more than coaching at LSU.
He's just like us!! Yay!!!
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Having been involved with LSU football for 40 years, the vibe and energy along the Gulf Coast, within the program, with the player alumni, with the HS coaches along I-10 ----- most are very pleased with the O hire.
This isn't surprising, Louisiana and Mississippi are consitently at the bottom when it comes to education.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:17 pm to ibleedprplngld
Whole lot of hyperbole in the title of thread LOL! More simply, Herman is a high risk high reward hire for Texas. IT can go either way.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:57 pm to Canwoodtiger
He better start recruiting better than he has shown so far.
They were excited because a TE they wanted decommitted from Nebraska. The kid signed with Mary Hardin Baylor instead of committing to UT. The LH's have 8 recruits and are ranked 59th in the country.
Quotes from Texas recruiting board:
They were excited because a TE they wanted decommitted from Nebraska. The kid signed with Mary Hardin Baylor instead of committing to UT. The LH's have 8 recruits and are ranked 59th in the country.
Quotes from Texas recruiting board:
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Plus, Herman will have had well over a full month on Strong in terms of recruiting when they were both respectively hired.
Strong put two elite classes together following losing seasons and built the talent pool pretty well in those two classes. If Herman, a coach who people are excited about and has numerous relations throughout the state, does poorly with the class, it should be on him. I think he needs to make excellent evaluations the rest of the way in order to build on the last two classes and not have it crumble with a mediocre or poor class.
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+1 We were all sold on Herman having awesome relationships across the stat of Texas so yes it is beyond fair to judge him on this class.
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Now Texas has "fake damage." Not one recruit, commit, or prospect has mentioned their lack of interest in Texas because we loss to Kansas or because we have 3 years of a losing record.
That is all you. You are literally making it up as you go so that you can just justify your deep dislike of Charlie Strong.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 11:08 pm to Tiger1988
quote:I wanted Herman as well, but Oeaux "Done Good" with the Canada hire, repairing the Brennan damage and bringing in the Coach that probably knows more about Special Teams play than anybody. (Yeah, I know it's just for the Bowl game, but it may be permanent if the all the dices fall in place)
Freaking O defenders. Stupid
I'll give O his shot for a year or two, because there is no other option at this point.
No further need to cry over spilled milk............
Posted on 12/18/16 at 11:28 pm to Tiger Ree
More from UT fans:
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I don't have a problem with whiffingbon guys he's had no relationship with, but he's striking out on players he actively recruited to UH as well. And these aren't 4 or 5-star guys. I didn't expect him to light the world on fire, but I definitely expected him to do better than he has been. We'll see how January goes, I guess, once his staff is complete and can get after it on the trail, but it's not looking good so far.
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He did a good job planning his exit from U of H but not a good job planning his arrival to Texas in my opinion.
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My whole point is you guys praised Herman and how all these player in the state wants to play for him but he's losing out on the same kids and even the ones that was committed to Houston and some low level guys. He's basically bringing his whole staff to Austin so I'm not understanding how it's hard to sell recruits with a bigger brand school since he's so great! He's even losing on guys he's already had previous relationship with at Houston.
......just sitting back and waiting to see the miracle works of Herm
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I am disappointed with the lukewarm response Tom Herman has received with recruits. I think most people expected an uptick in interest from the elite recruits that doesn't seem to be happening. I think most fans are hoping Tom Herman can bring the success on the field because it will solve a lot of the recruiting issues. However, Houston's 2016 season is concerning that in retrospect the 2015 season may have been a flash in the pan. I hope Tom Herman despite his inexperience will bring us wins. It certainly would be more comforting to have hired an established coach, such as Meyer, Harbaugh etc rather than a relative flyer with Herman.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 11:28 pm to texastigerr
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Sarkisian is legit. Look at he record.He will be a headcoach in 2 years.
He'l be living under a bridge in 2 years.
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