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re: LSU Is Not and Never Has Been a Top 5 Program Historically

Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:20 am to
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11413 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:20 am to
Michigan ahead of LSU? Really?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57330 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:20 am to
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10. Oregon or Florida State



Oregon's barely in the top 50.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42573 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:24 am to
LSU is a great job. It does lack the resources of other schools, but shouldn't aim for lower candidates. Historical rankings are overrated.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:26 am to
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Michigan ahead of LSU? Really?


No you are correct it isn't!

Bama
Ohio State
USC
Texas
Michigan
LSU

And that is CURRENT times we aren't living in history Stevo
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:27 am to
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It does lack the resources of other schools,


Not in the Athletics department which is all that matters for this job. LSU is one of the largest and most profitable Athletic departments in the country - google it if you don't believe me!

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:27 am to
Agree. Except Notre Dame. That brand of football is extinct.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:28 am to
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Miami also has more potential


Ok seriously, put down the crack pipe!!! Now you are just being stupid to get more posts on your thread!!!
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 9:29 am
Posted by windhammontanatigers
windham-stanford, montana
Member since Nov 2009
4993 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:28 am to
We are not worried about Historically, we are talking about now. Are you saying LSU is not a top 5 program NOW?
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2777 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:30 am to
Every coach has his own views on what jobs are great. Some look at facilities and ease to recruit and win. If that's your outlook, LSU is very high.

If your outlook is nostalgic with a desire to be more recognized and revered nationally, ND would be higher.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42573 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:30 am to
LSU is a community college compared to a school like Michigan. That does matter. Their endowment is 4x LSU's. Their alumni base drawfs LSU. Nothing to be ashamed of, but to say otherwise is you just being a homer.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11413 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:31 am to
do we forget what Schnellenberger, Johnson, Erickson, and Davis did at Miami when most recruits came from only the southern part of the state?
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2777 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:32 am to
Arguments in this thread are pointless. Just as every poster has a different pecking order, so does every coach. It's not universal that every coach would consider LSU a top 5 job.
Posted by MtgUnderwriter
Member since Aug 2016
549 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:33 am to
I could care less about any success prior to 20 years ago. LSU is a top 5-6 job now. Once Saban leaves bama, they will no longer be that at all. Same logic applies to Michigan and Ohio State.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3952 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:34 am to
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LSU is a community college compared to a school like Michigan. That does matter


Not to most 5 and 4 star recruits. Especially when you are pulling from south Texas to the pan handle of Florida.


In the grand scheme of things for an average applicant, you are right. But we must view this through a different lense.

Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:35 am to
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do we forget what Schnellenberger, Johnson, Erickson, and Davis did at Miami when most recruits came from only the southern part of the state?


You are living in the past. I already told you I agree with you regarding Historically - LSU was never thought of as a top 5 job.

But we aren't living in the past are we? Miami will never become the Miami of old would you like to know why?

Because they can't pay their players anymore without getting caught!!! The school is WAY too small to be dominate again without cheating and the stadium is WAY too far off campus!!!

Miami had their 15mins of fame "because the cheated their asses off" and they are now done. But they weren't ever thought of as a top 5 traditional program either until they cheated to get there in the 80's and 90's!!!
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 9:37 am
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:38 am to
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In the grand scheme of things for an average applicant, you are right. But we must view this through a different lense.


They can't understand that, all these recruits we are talking about care about making the NFL that is going to be their profession not academics!!
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12720 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:41 am to
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Bama
Ohio State
USC
Texas
Michigan


Bingo.

Anyone that thinks LSU is better than these jobs is dreaming.

You are a better job than anither school if you can take their head coach, which means you can pay more, have better resources, and can recruit nationally. LSU could not take a coach from any of those schools right now. If Saban retired tomorrow, Bama could take any coach they wanted with the talent that is there (they would fall off eventually though). Ohio State and Michigan are a step down from that, then you have the Texas money train.

USC is in a class of it's own. Football powerhouse in Los Angeles. LSU and Baton Rouge cannot compete with that. USC is just a sexier name in college football.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 9:42 am
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:44 am to
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Bama could take any coach they wanted with the talent that is there


So you think Bama could go hire Urban or Harbaugh? No way!

Those 5 schools are in a class of their own they can't poach from within!
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
4947 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:45 am to
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Alabama USC Norte Dame Michigan Florida Texas Ohio State Are all better programs throughout history. Just because two boobs said on ESPN that we are top five does not make it so. We've perhaps had the potential to be so, but we're just not.


If you really want to be a dumbass you should throw in Army, Yale, Harvard in there because over the last 150 years they are bigtime. We don't have to be a top 5 program, we just have to be a top open job.
Posted by OU812
Greensboro, NC
Member since Apr 2004
12578 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:51 am to
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LSU is a community college compared to a school like Michigan. That does matter. Their endowment is 4x LSU's.


Ever seen Vanderbilt's endowment?
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