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Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:35 pm to Stevo
I would put LSU in the 6 to 8 range as best jobs in the country.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:36 pm to Carville
The population in Florida has changed dramatically in past 35 years. Since late 1980's, FSU has been stronger than LSU by and large. We pay our assistants more, and have less competition for in state recruiting, so LSU currently has more potential, IMO.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:49 pm to Lee Chatelain
the top programs and jobs in the country are (in no particular order) lsu, bama, florida, and texas.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:53 pm to Switzerland
Ohio State and USC ought to be in there. LSU not quite the same as the schools you mentioned.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:04 pm to Stevo
osu is top tier only if you're from the rustbelt. it's the top program up north but that's it.
usc is second tier especially now with the nfl returning to town. plus you have terrible traffic, terrible campus location, terrible facilities, mediocre conference, mediocre fanbase, mediocre salary, and high taxes.
usc is second tier especially now with the nfl returning to town. plus you have terrible traffic, terrible campus location, terrible facilities, mediocre conference, mediocre fanbase, mediocre salary, and high taxes.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:07 pm to Stevo
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LSU Is Not and Never Has Been a Top 5 Program Historically
in other breaking news, water is wet.
also, uf isn't even a top 10 all time program.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:09 pm to Switzerland
I've been to USC several times. It's a far cry from an SEC experience, but that's true of Most PAC 12 teams, except maybe Washington. The campus is beautiful, the Coliseum is an outstanding stadium, band is great, song girls, and you're in SoCal. Agree to disagree with you on that one.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:42 pm to Solo Cam
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They have by far the best facilities in the country, an awesome stadium, great fan base and a prominent booster that will pay 10mil a year for a coach.
Barely top 50 though huh?
How about give me 35 universities that are better. Should be easy if they're barely top 50. Oregon's overall winning percentage is under .600, which is mediocre at best.
The OP said "historically," so my statement is accurate.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:57 pm to Stevo
i'm surprised at the ignorance in this post Stevo. not one of the programs you listed got the first coach they wanted in their search. every one of them had to go down the line and settle on a lower choice.
my point is that being a top five program historically doesn't have a thing to do with our coaching search. LSU is at or near a top 5 program but top coaches make virtually the same money where they are now.
my point is that being a top five program historically doesn't have a thing to do with our coaching search. LSU is at or near a top 5 program but top coaches make virtually the same money where they are now.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 4:17 pm to LSU GrandDad
You'll notice my title thread included the present as well as the past. Historical basis counts for things like program support and resources. Michigan, for instance, was down a very long time, but I believe everyone still considered them a top 5 program. Sure enough, Harbaugh has them back.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 4:33 pm to Stevo
LSU has more NCs in the last fifteen years than all but Alabama, Florida and tOSU from that list
In terms of revenue LSU is top five. In terms of recruiting LSU is top five.
What LSU lacks is a top five head coach.
In terms of revenue LSU is top five. In terms of recruiting LSU is top five.
What LSU lacks is a top five head coach.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 4:39 pm to Solo Cam
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LSU pays more, has a better stadium, a better fan base, a top 10 (maybe top 5) state all to itself and it's in the SEC. That's why it's better than FSU.
The "in the SEC" argument really doesn't mean anything anymore. If anything I'd argue it's better to be a Clemson or an FSU as you only have to win that game each year, and you're in. The playoff has diminished the need to be from the absolute best conference in the land. If you're at a top school in one of the better conferences, you'll be fine.
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Quality of players makes it better than Michigan. There's a reason why Jim H wants so damn desperately to set up satellite camps in the SEC states. Better athletes.
In a year Harbaugh will turn that roster over and have it humming like a well-oiled machine. It will be the same thing Ohio State did with Meyer. Those programs recruit the entire country. You could make an argument that the Michigan helmet and uni is below only things like the Yankee pinstripes and the Cowboy star as the most iconic imagine in all of sports let alone college football. I love LSU, but it's brand will never touch Michigan's, period.
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