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re: The two sides of the election debate
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:43 am to bfniii
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:43 am to bfniii
Is it so hard to believe Trump simply lost? Most of us regard him as the most dangerously unfit conman to ever occupy the office, so we were highly motivated to turn out and vote, and get everyone we know to turn out. We didn't go to rallies or have flags on our vehicles, we just voted, and voted early. We are the silent majority.
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:52 am to bfniii
Got it.All of Trump's votes count but only the part of Biden's that you agree with should count.
So Trump had no mail in or absentee ballots cast?
You obviously just do not understand the number of people that could not stand the man and would have voted for anybody other than him.
You think people believe everything they're told by their "handlers" yet that is exactly what you are doing. You believe all of the lies from Trump,Giuliani,and Karen McKracken about fraud.Yet none of it can be proven and it has been tossed out of court at every turn.Democrat,Republican, appointed by Trump or not they've been run out of court with their tails between their legs. Not to mention they even answered judges questions with "no your honor we are not claiming fraud."
So Trump had no mail in or absentee ballots cast?
You obviously just do not understand the number of people that could not stand the man and would have voted for anybody other than him.
You think people believe everything they're told by their "handlers" yet that is exactly what you are doing. You believe all of the lies from Trump,Giuliani,and Karen McKracken about fraud.Yet none of it can be proven and it has been tossed out of court at every turn.Democrat,Republican, appointed by Trump or not they've been run out of court with their tails between their legs. Not to mention they even answered judges questions with "no your honor we are not claiming fraud."
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:00 am to blowe
quote:
You could not see the ballots.
You could not see signatures.
You could not see outer envelopes.
You could not get ANY court to hear ANY testimony.
You could not audit the vote in the counties you want.
You could not see the machines, nor audit the machines.
You could not get the media to report on ANY possible election fraud and on and on and on
Everyone seems to forget Trump singing this same exact song in 2016. So much so that he formed a voter fraud commission to find all the illegal votes (because it was impossible for Hillary to get more). Kris Kobach and Mike Pence headed up this investigation, which ended as you would expect - embarrassingly. No fraud or illegal votes were found, and they didn't even issue a report, just quietly disbanded the panel like rats in the night.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:02 am to bfniii
Good try.
The answer is FRAUD!
You know it, the country knows it....just like the OJ Simpson case.
The answer is FRAUD!
You know it, the country knows it....just like the OJ Simpson case.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:10 am to bfniii
quote:
expert forensic cyber analysis
There are well known, reputable firms that provide forensic data analysis to corporations, governments, and individuals for use in civil litigation, and cases of criminal fraud. None of them were used to audit the election results, instead they had a parade of self proclaimed “experts” like the “Barcode man” and others with laughable resumes.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:12 am to bfniii
You left out the Chynes Party.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:16 am to MrBlonde91
quote:
Only answer is civil war
Or amicable divorce. (Ain’t happening, I know.)
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:36 pm to oldskule
quote:
Good try.
The answer is FRAUD!
You know it, the country knows it....just like the OJ Simpson case.
No, I don't know it. Rigging the election as you people claim would require a massive inter-state conspiracy involving prominent Republicans who campaigned loudly for Trump. It makes no sense. Why would a bunch of southern pro-Trump good ole boys rig the vote for Biden? Nobody seems to want to touch that one.
This outcome should not have come as a surprise - you guys spend so much time hating on the media, you missed all the signs. He never polled above 50%, never sought to make inroads with anyone but his own supporters. He trailed in every poll but Rasmussen, and he lost just like the polls predicted.
Honestly I'm surprised it was as close as it was. If not for the BLM rioting it would have been a blowout of historic proportions. If he had handled COVID even adequately he would still be in office.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:23 pm to BoneSpurs
quote:given the preponderance of evidence to the opposite? absolutely. well, to normal people at least
Is it so hard to believe Trump simply lost?
quote:yet he will go down as one of the most accomplished presidents ever
Most of us regard him as the most dangerously unfit conman to ever occupy the office
also, i noted that you admitted feelings over facts. that's where the left is at now. just not even denying it.
quote:
we were highly motivated to turn out and vote
yeah that didn't happen. fraudulent mail ins? now that i can believe quote:yet again, prove it. show me the biden votes. don't just point me to statements from the gestapo who were biased against trump and then expect me to take them at their word like you cardboard cutouts are doing
We didn't go to rallies or have flags on our vehicles, we just voted, and voted early
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:35 pm to blowe
quote:is there a problem?
All of Trump's votes count
quote:well, the part that's been proven to be problematic. but i guess only people with integrity have a problem with those votes. shills don't
but only the part of Biden's that you agree with should count
quote:again, is there a problem? if there is an allegation about them, i want it investigated to the fullest.
So Trump had no mail in or absentee ballots cast?
quote:people just openly admitting they voted by feelings over facts. astonishing
You obviously just do not understand the number of people that could not stand the man and would have voted for anybody other than him
quote:show me the "lies." go to the op and refute ANY of those points. i mean with facts, not blithe dismissals from the ministry of propaganda.
You believe all of the lies from Trump,Giuliani,and Karen McKracken about fraud
quote:i don't have to do that. i know what a video shows when i see it. i know when a cyberwarfare expert gives testimony about foreign data connections to the servers during the election that no one has refuted. i know what i'm hearing when hundreds of eyewitnesses testify on the record about fraud.
yet that is exactly what you are doing
quote:what is wrong with you people? what do you mean a video can't be proven? the person at the ga outreach center is on video admitting that homeless people use their center as a home address. the mi s.o.s. is on video telling vote counters to run already counted votes through again.
Yet none of it can be proven
you people are just insane
quote:not on evidence. on procedure, merit or standing. but you knew that didn't you smart guy
has been tossed out of court at every turn
quote:why do you people keep repeating already refuted claims? evidence of fraud was presented to the judges. lots of it. but no, they didn't claim "fraud" on the docket. they asked for what's called relief meaning, they asked for a halt to vote counting until the matter could be resolved. that's it. totally reasonable but the judges said repeatedly they didn't want the election to be decided in the courts and yet here is yet another npc trying to make the courts the final election decision
Not to mention they even answered judges questions with "no your honor we are not claiming fraud."
you people are just not capable of any independent thought. you are literally freaking robots
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:38 pm to blowe
STILL not even one of the clowns has debunked even one thing from the op. not one. they haven't even tried!
all they can do is keep repeating the propaganda muh internet rumors.
all they can do is keep repeating the propaganda muh internet rumors.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:12 pm to BoneSpurs
quote:not true. the states wouldn't cooperate and refused to send them the info they needed. that doesn't bother you?
No fraud or illegal votes were found
can you people say anything without lying?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:24 pm to bfniii
all they can do is keep repeating the propaganda muh internet rumors
This is exactly what you are doing.And using the word "muh" puts you in the ignorant category that you love to throw at others.
Nobody will be refuting anything you or Trump have been screaming.That is the propaganda and internet rumors.It was up to him and his team to present actual real evidence that would stand up in court and that did not happen.Game over.
This is exactly what you are doing.And using the word "muh" puts you in the ignorant category that you love to throw at others.
Nobody will be refuting anything you or Trump have been screaming.That is the propaganda and internet rumors.It was up to him and his team to present actual real evidence that would stand up in court and that did not happen.Game over.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:26 pm to EA6B
quote:
There are well known, reputable firms that provide forensic data analysis to corporations, governments, and individuals for use in civil litigation, and cases of criminal fraud. None of them were used to audit the election results, instead they had a parade of self proclaimed “experts” like the “Barcode man” and others with laughable resumes
one long winded, erudite sounding genetic fallacy
tell us what they said that was wrong
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:32 pm to BoneSpurs
quote:not really. each swing state had their own problems. they weren't necessarily "coordinated"
Rigging the election as you people claim would require a massive inter-state conspiracy
quote:uh, did you see the certification session? heard the news about marsha blackburn today? they're called rinos and they're despised
nvolving prominent Republicans who campaigned loudly for Trump
quote:because they have tds just like all the people on the left. trump was upsetting the political establishment and they went into cya mode, live and in living color
Why would a bunch of southern pro-Trump good ole boys rig the vote for Biden?
quote:polls.
He never polled above 50%, never sought to make inroads with anyone but his own supporters. He trailed in every poll but Rasmussen, and he lost just like the polls predicted.
the guy had 70mil people show up in person during a virus outbreak to vote for him smashing all previous records. nevermind the rallies too. but yeah, he wasn't really that popular. quote:you mean not interfering with the states? how unamerican of him
If he had handled COVID even adequately he would still be in office.
your take is incredibly stupid. it's amazing that brain can generate enough power to keep those legs moving
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:37 pm to blowe
quote:
This is exactly what you are doing
pointing to evidence like videos that show you fraud was present? that's propaganda? what is wrong with you people? how did you get so messed up? you can't even acknowledge freaking videos. just admit it. they show evidence of fraud. stop pretending. it's juvenile and transparent
quote:yeah you got that right. kind of hard to refute a video or eyewitness testimony
Nobody will be refuting anything you or Trump have been screaming
quote:you're right. the judges wouldn't allow it. so the evidence never was refuted by anyone. it was dismissed by judges and corrupt bureaucrats
It was up to him and his team to present actual real evidence that would stand up in court and that did not happen
Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:07 am to bfniii
quote:
polls. the guy had 70mil people show up in person during a virus outbreak to vote for him smashing all previous records. nevermind the rallies too. but yeah, he wasn't really that popular.
Uh, he lost, the polls were right. See, normal people just vote and move on. Nutjobs go to big in person MAGA circle jerks and worship their cult leader. I'll clue you in about those rallies, he lost in part because he did nothing but rallies. He never stopped doing rallies, even after he won. Adulation and golf were his thing, not doing the job of president. So we relieved him of that burden.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:59 am to BoneSpurs
quote:of course you're still working from the ignorant assumption that biden actually got legitimate votes because you're apparently an ignorant rube who believes anything the establishment tells you. Which makes your polls comment stupid.
he lost, the polls were right
quote:how many times has this been debunked. Ask trump supporters how they feel about the virus handouts. You won't because then you wouldn't be able to perpetuate the idiotic stereotype about trump supporters that you so desperately need to be true because you are emotionally unstable and intellectually weak
worship their cult leader
quote:laughable
not doing the job of president
You're a joke of a person politically
Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:00 am to BoneSpurs
Hey, when are you going to take down the points in the op? Are you allergic to facts? Clown
Posted on 1/23/21 at 4:09 pm to bfniii
it's funny how NO ONE has even attempted to refute even one point from the op.
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