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re: Rep. Garret Graves escalates effort to repeal Social Security penalty for teachers, police
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:46 pm to jbgleason
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:46 pm to jbgleason
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This is for people who worked pre, post or had a second job outside their gov job but are forced to choose between their government pension or social security. If you paid into the system, you should get the benefits.
I know people who have done both and collect from both. No reason to choose between the 2.
What does this change?
*eta Nevermind...BigJim cleared it up for me.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 9/19/23 at 3:07 am to ragincajun03
That’s how it was with my dad, he worked 20 years in the oilfield, right out of college and then after the oil crisis and slow times, he went back to UL, got his teacher’s certificate and taught for 22 years. When it came to retirement, he was denied those 20 years he paid into Social Security because he has a government pension. He didn’t put into SS once he became a teacher, but they robbed him from his 20 years of work prior to having a government job.
This post was edited on 9/19/23 at 3:10 am
Posted on 9/19/23 at 7:45 am to CrawDude
My wife was the opposite. Taught for 33 years in public and then for 16 years at private, paying into SS in the private school. Her teacher's retirement meant her SS benefit was cut to roughly $325 a month. Should have been about 5 times that. The offset is just a loophole to screw people who change from public to private retirement systems. In my opinion the government tends to screw over working people while bending over backwards for those who do not work.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 8:13 am to theunknownknight
quote:Not in my state. I know there are a few such cases but can't recall the circumstances. I know railroad pension is exempt from SS. Not sure who else though.
a lot of state workers, if not all, don’t pay into SS at all. They pay into retirement
Posted on 9/19/23 at 8:35 am to ragincajun03
My wife worked in education for 20 years and began receiving a pension. She has worked approximately 17 years in the private sector, paying SS taxes. Her estimated Full Retirement Age benefit from SS is $1728, but that will be reduced by the maximum WEP reduction of $512 based upon the year of reaching age 62. So if we wait until age 67, her SS benefit will be $1,216. A lot of posts state that you lose your SS, but for many, it's a lowering of SS. If you pay into SS between 20 and 30 years, there is a gradual reduction of the "penalty", and there is no reduction at 30 years. It would be great to get this increase, but considering that SS is already broke, I don't understand how they can manage this.
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