So what about the uranium one deal?
Or the annexation of Crimea in which we didn’t do anything?
Or the fact that under Obama, the American economy was abysmal. Which is undoubtedly something that the Russians care for.

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Posted by Antonio Moss

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Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:01 pm to jnethe1

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So what about the uranium one deal?

Because Russia was going to buy that uranium no matter who was selling it.

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Or the annexation of Crimea in which we didn’t do anything?

We helped cause the Crimean Crisis. Refer back to my original post and the Orange Revolution.

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Or the fact that under Obama, the American economy was abysmal. Which is undoubtedly something that the Russians care for.

First, Russia was hit just as hard in 2008. Second, Russia doesn’t benefit from us having a weak economy. Finally, the abysmal foreign policy that had a negative effect on Russia far outweighs US domestic issues.

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Posted by OleWar

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Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:05 pm to jnethe1

More importantly they were as "dumb" as every other political pundit who thought Hillary would win.

They were even completely unprepared to engage with the incoming administration once Trump was elected.

I think this is a really good analysis base on the Mueller report.

What the Mueller Report Tells Us About How Russia Works
Please, put away those onion-dome-on-the-White-House graphics and abandon those excitable claims of Trump as a Russian agent.

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Far more frequent, though, are indications of a Kremlin that not only did not want or expect Trump to become president (in my opinion, the Russians were convinced Clinton would win and were simply trying to disrupt her assumed presidency, fearing she would embark upon a concerted campaign against them). If anything, the Kremlin was worried about its lack of traction with the campaign, and relied on the actions of sundry political entrepreneurs

LINK

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Posted by jnethe1

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Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:49 pm to Antonio Moss

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Because Russia was going to buy that uranium no matter who was selling it.

So the fact that the Clinton foundation randomly began receiving massive donations from people and companies tied to this deal has absolutely no meaning?

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We helped cause the Crimean Crisis. Refer back to my original post and the Orange Revolution.

So that means that we should completely disregard Putin acting just as hitler did because Obama was our president and Hillary was the Secretary of State?

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First, Russia was hit just as hard in 2008. Second, Russia doesn’t benefit from us having a weak economy. Finally, the abysmal foreign policy that had a negative effect on Russia far outweighs US domestic issues.

Was Russia hit just as hard for the same reasons? And please explain what that has to do with our economy and the abysmal recovery under Obama?
Russia may or may not benefit, but they obviously wish to inflict harm. They were behind some very divisive rhetoric and movements that have occurred here. They have to have some reason to do this. And please explain what you mean by this: