re: HLI: Update/resurrection

American Revolution / Washington:

It's not a coincidence that the "illuminati" emerged the same year as the American revolution.

Basically, the illumnati was never a real thing. Instead, it was a psy-op on the mystery schools to create confusion over whether the American revolution was actually their project and should be allowed, or a genuine rebellion.

Take the idea that free range cattle produce you more milk than caged ones. As it relates to society, you need the cattle to think they are free range to get the effect. If you create disarray and tie it to the idea of trying to "cover up" a fake offering of freedom, you can actually offer freedom before the establishment figures out you're rocking the boat and doing it for real.

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The illuminati was a disinformation campaign to make the revolution look like an establishment play, when in fact it was a real rebellion.

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The Illuminati isn't a real group. It was a disinformation campaign deployed during the revolutionary war to allow the war to be successful.

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The Illuminati was presented as an establishment operation at the time. The idea is to trick them into thinking the American revolution was their own project along these lines: give a false sense of freedom to the masses to solidify your control. Because you are giving "false" freedom, you have to keep it secret - but therein lies your opportunity to exercise a psyop and deliver real freedom.


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Most people are aligned with us on a moral basis. That being said, we did start things like the Illuminati that are widely regarded as the "new world order" and also believed to be bad. We don't run any sort of "illumnati" organization today; it was simply a psy-op we ran on the masonic order to make the American revolution possible. The regime that people oppose is what I refer to as the old world order.

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Question to him:

>I think I get you, Washington played his opposition at their own game and beat them.

>He had them thinking that his work (and that of those who he was working with) might have actually their work and thus allowed him to continue.

>Bringing the same notion forward, if we can make Black Team think we are doing their work, then we might have more of a chance at succeeding because the opposition will think we are an extension of their efforts rather than an attempt at making something else come in to being. This is where we can best employ our force multipliers and alternative armaments.

>Find those key logs and break up the log jams, close the technology gaps.

>Right track?

Response:  >>81411567 #
You're getting a better conceptual grasp of what happened in the past here, but this is a trick that has already played out.

To a large extent, you have a free society that resulted from those efforts. The next step is actually utilizing those freedoms, not running a similar con on the establishment.

We've already backed them against the wall with the American revolution that led to a majority middle class. Think in terms of pushing the project forward - you're most of the way there already.

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We created the Illuminati as a psy-op to allow the American revolution to be successful.

We believe in globalism in the long run, but we're not short term globalists. Your regime is attempting to implement it as a sort of race to the bottom, whereas we believe in strengthening the US nationstate rather than destroying it, then using it as a catalyst for robust domestic and then international growth.

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You are opposed to the old world order, not the new world order. It is a few thousand years old. The new world order is what needs to be built - the American enterprise.

Jefferson believed in a weak state that is easily subverted. Exactly the sort of thing the establishment tries to create in Iraq or Russia today. Washington instigated the constitutional convention to make the federal government capable of robust large scale infrastructure, productive nationalism. Jefferson fought it at every turn in favor of weakness. Americans struggled for manifest destiny, while Jefferson tried to stop the Louisiana Purchase and shilled for the coverup of Meriwether Lewis' assassination.

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Question:  
>>99811998 #

I remember you stating that Andrew Jackson was recruited by Aaron Burr and otherwise a British crown agent. 

What presidents were associated with you guys? Theodore Roosevelt?

Response: 
>>99814344 #
Washington, Madison, Kennedy.



Europe/Globalism:

The old world order is your enemy. It already exists. It is not something that is coming down the line.

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The old order doesn't have an end game. They are not plotting a new world order, but rather fighting to maintain the old order. The language you have been given to describe your predicament is all upside down.

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Most "conspiracy" media goes on and on about the "new world order" as evil. That is because the American revolution is the beginning of the new world order, a move away from the old existing regime that kept the masses down for so long. This is the origin of them trying to pass themselves off as the "illuminati" through cointelpro alternative media comes from.

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The English elite believe they are the rightful rulers of the world as descendants of the line of David.

The Saudis are in awkward position of recognizing they have been used as pawns and trying to emerge from that to player status, mixed with a variety of individual agendas that get varying level of state sanction.

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The old order is centered in London. They want to maintain a pseudo-independent status, carrying on with significant influence but financially separated enough to implode continental finance without becoming part of the contagion when the time is right.
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Globalism isn't the best way to describe the agenda. Think of it more in terms of destroying the nationstate. The reason for this is that the apparatus of the state gives the masses a focal point to organize around and exercise power beyond their individual capacities, which is a threat to their masters.


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Division is the end game of strategies of tension. Division keeps the masses in a state of being conquered.

It is incorrect to think of this as divide then conquer. Better to describe it as the conquered stay conquered when divided.

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The Clintons work for what can be loosely described as British intelligence, as do the Bushes. The Rothschild house and the monarchy have merged both in terms of intermarriage and deep cooperation.

The US government has been their biggest enemy ever since the revolution. They'd like to continue to gradually strengthen China and fade US power.

The longer view here would be that after the US is weak relative to China, the Chinese government can be easily toppled (it isn't domestically popular) and replaced by the British oligarchy.

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The nexus of world power evolved around the British Crown. There is a significant merger between the royal families, banking houses, and upper echelons of masonic leadership. These were generally distinct for the last few hundred years but significantly less so in the last 100.

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The Bush and Clinton families both work for the House of Marlborough in England. They are the major influencers of US politics at the moment, and in turn serve British monarchy that is a conglomeration of several old European banking houses.

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Yes. Pamela Churchill (Churchill family is the House of Marlborough) was Clinton's major backer in '92. The Chinese funded the '96 campaign, but recall that Chinese finance industry is controlled by British interests (dating back to opium wars and retention of Hong Kong).

One might have naively said that Americans would never let the British rule them again in 1800, yet Anglophiles dominate D.C. today. Much is possible when actions are concealed.

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The US revolution didn't finish with the end of the war. British loyalists have always been numerous still are. Many of the most highly rated collegiate universities, think tanks, etc., have their endowments from British opium trafficking (Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Russell Trust, etc.) and influence has propagated via these channels and others.

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British control was cemented in WW2 when the US allowed the British to create the OSS (later CIA). 

Before then they only had substantial, but far from a controlling interest, via influence peddling. For example, many ivy league universities get their original endowments from families that worked for the British East India Company as opium smugglers.

They purchased the ability to shape university mission statements, pick faculty, and so on with all of this money.

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Mormonism was created by British intelligence to start insurrectionist / breakaway tendencies in American society towards the goal of fracturing it much like has been done in Iraq recently by pitting Kurds, Shias and Sunnis against each other.

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The two biggest groups in the CIA are overt British loyalists and Mormons (a religion created by the British). Many of the rank and file (Mormons, and some others that are not pro-British) are strongly against the Chinese model for ethical reasons, although at the higher level (Romney) you see a recognition of British interests and an expression of things that only make sense in the context of Anglophilia like the anti-Russian rhetoric or selling of weapons secrets to the Chinese (by the Clintons), or double-crossing the Russians (Bush Sr.) and cratering their economy after they agreed to dissolve and work as partners rather than Cold War adversaries. The many layers of deception employed in the CIA are difficult to manage coherently.

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I've never had much interest in bloodline type stuff, but I am aware there is uncertainty over who Bill's parents really are. It isn't hard to believe that he is related to Marlborough house.

Hillary has always been a sinister opportunist, so her picking him as a spouse is as good a reason to believe she knew he was somebody as any.


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Globalism will ultimately prevail. In the long run, it doesn't make sense for mankind to be divided up and opposed to each other.

In the medium term, we think strong nationalist movements coupled with robust economic development is a better path forward.
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Globalism, as it comes, should be derived from the success of the US as a city on the hill, rather than the collapse of the US leading to stateless oligarchs that run the world.

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As to your racial inquiries, intragroup heterogeneity is much, much larger than intergroup heterogeneity. In this sense, it's not a particularly useful construct.

If you really want to pursue questions like this, you'll find that intergroup heterogeneity is often driven by intent and ideas moreso than biological accident. For example, think of the selection mechanisms in place during the migration from Europe to America - only particular subsets of the population left: the more adventurous, rebellious, independent, risk-prone people. There's a far more significant difference in early American immigrants as compared to those who remained in Europe than say between whites and asians or blacks.

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One of the great genetic separations happened as a result of the migration from Europe to America. The US population was highly cultivated in favor of more rebellious, adventurous, enterprising people. The difference between American whites and European whites, at least earlier on in the history of the USA, is much bigger than differences between different skin colors.
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You guys are right that jews have disproportionate influence in the world, especially in spheres where it really matters like finance and the media.

Where you are wrong is that you confuse cause and effect. The jews were put into these fields by non-jews as patsies originally. Christians were not allowed to engage in usury, but jews had no problem with it, so "Christian" monarchs/governments used the jews to steal from the population, then blamed it on the jews.

Today, with the widespread weakening of the nationstate, international finance is emerging as a shadow state. That gives the jews increasingly more power, but the nationstate is being destroyed by the same people who put jews into finance in the first place. So, many are right that there is growing jewish power, but generally wrong about why and how we got here.

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The myth of terrorism is a crucial element to the perpetuation of the police state and a great distraction from your real enemies.

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The regime isn't anti-white. It is very much anti-middle class because strong middle class families produce educated potent offspring that can become challengers to the regime. It happens to be the case that most such people in the world are white, so white people may seem to be the target of their actions. That is missing the bigger picture though.

Mass immigration primarily serves to undermine the middle class; it is meant as an economic rather than genetic threat. There is also the added benefit of people generally having in-group preferences and the resulting increase in tension within a society that is easy to exploit for the regime.

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The petrodollar is really a misnomer. The dollar is backed up by military supremacy. It's value is tinkered with via many routes besides the petro trade: drug trade, printing, taxation, interest rates, etc.

The establishment wants to move the world towards a Chinese style model. They prefer a peaceful demise of US / Russia and gradual replacement by China as the center of the world (covertly ruled by the the banking houses and other establishment figures based in London).

There is no credible threat to US hegemony at the moment; no military threat exists and China's economy is not able to sustain itself from even minor hiccups like the US slapping a modest tariff on them.

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The EU was never meant to be a model towards a new world order, just a means of destabilizing Europe. They prefer to weaken western nation states where the middle class is robust and only desire strong regimes where the population is accustom to oppression (China). British/European involvement with Islam is about maintaining soft control over China's energy supply, which they intend to be the model of the future. They do not want and will not allow an Islamic takeover of the power in these states, but are just bidding their time until China can replace the US as the proxy power of the financial system.

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We agree about retaking the US from British influence. A soft coup in SA is about as easy done as said though. They are highly unorganized degenerates that will respond readily to a bit of carrot and stick.

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Yes, absent our intervention. We plan to preserve US hegemony and use it as intended: a city on the hill that lifts up the rest of the world, rather than the military arm of the old world order that it is now.

Modern American /Global History/Politics:

Consider the tale of the emperor who has no clothes.

When everyone fails to point out that the emperor is naked, new generations arise that can no longer distinguish between the states of being clothed or naked.

You've reached a point where even your leaders don't know what they are doing anymore.

We are here to bring you back to sanity.


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Let me give you an insanely brief history lesson.

You demanded anti-monopoly laws about 125 years ago and they were given to you.

One of the consequences of removing monopoly power from the market is systemic bankruptcy. In other words, there is no effective market clearing mechanism because we don't ever get to the point of having a monopoly left that can't raise prices to generate profit to clear bankruptcy events.

As a consequence, we must allow another mechanism to clear systemic bankruptcy. This is your CIA drug running or government sloshing money around to big banks or increased welfare or whatever. We're bailing out bankruptcies.

But you did all this to yourself. And you brought the corruption on yourself by demanding anti-monopoly laws without thinking through the consequences.

We won't allow the world to collapse, so we allow people to do things to mitigate that. If you have a better plan, put it on the table.

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Question: >>80499680 #

> It was insecure on purpose and that is the tree you should be barking up - why?

As a honeypot right? To spread disinfo to foreign governments? To allow CF donors access to genuine info? Give us more.

Response:
>>80501007 #
>To spread disinfo to foreign governments?

You're clever, anon.

The Clinton's always do their shady deeds under cover of state sanction.

Now you know why the FBI can't touch it.

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Hillary ran the server under cover of state sanctioned disinformation campaign. The idea is you put some false info on the open server as an intelligence op. That's not to say she was doing a good thing. There are much better ways to go about such an effort, it is merely the cover they crafted to enable selling state secrets to foreign buyers and block and legal enforcement against it.

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The server was set up to sell national security secrets. What she did is treason and everyone knows this.

However, proving it is a bit more difficult. The reason why is because she used the server to leak some disinformation as part of intelligence ops as well. You can "justify" having genuine secrets (that she is selling) to make the server look legitimate as part of the op.

You can see why this case gets very hairy very quickly.

There can be no doubt that she is guilty as this is just another case in a long pattern of similar behavior (selling weapons tech to China for '96 campaign funding for example) but it is the kind of case that brings down the whole government if it goes forward.



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>>80454900 #
Thinking that Hillary is going down is by herself is fantastical nonsense.

Thinking that she is going down with all the people she has dirt on is even more fantastical.

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You have to provide a serious alternative.

I'll help you out a little.

You are surely aware of the Clinton involvement in the CIA drug running. Do you also grasp that this is important to national security?

We control the value of the dollar by soaking up excess currency through the drug trade.

I am not telling you it has to be this way or that it is the best way. But if you want to do otherwise, you need a legitimate plan.

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Are you aware of the Clinton strategy of triangulation? They do more than try to find the middle ground on policy. Any position they take, they will leak opposition to it and have stories published to that effect.

For example, a Hillary supporter might believe she has always been an advocate of gay rights, but just couldn't say so before she did for political reasons. They intentionally craft this sort of dynamic so that their supporters can project their own values onto her, regardless of how close they are.

This has a lot to do with why symbolism is pervasive and important among the elites. Multiple interpretations allow for many-layered cons and few who actually know what is what.

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Pedophile network is a bit of a misnomer.

It's more like a blackmail network. Some people are not into it and you don't get forced into it.

We profile people from a young age and bait them with preexisting predilections. In this more general sense, you can check off just about any name you know as compromised seriously.

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Pedophile rings are very extensive. In excess of 80% of people at the level of Congress, important think tanks, executive positions, leadership of major corporations are on video engaging in pedophilia, gay sex, orgies, etc. Blackmail of this nature is by far the strongest glue holding the old order together.

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Question: >>100407206 #
is pizza gate real

Response:
>>100409989 #
Yes, pedophilia is rampant in the US and British regimes especially.

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Question: What can you speak to on Dr. Green/ Mengela / Maurice Greenberg and the family's that are all intermarried, is that the faction you're trying to take down?

Is ping pong table code for sacrificial altar?

Response:

>>100410463 #
They are part of it, yes

Yes, and importantly this is not merely symbolic ritual but demented actual deeds

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>You speak of blackmail webs. How does one avoid them?

Often, if you seek power, you will be framed even if you do not engage in blackmail worthy behavior.

If this doesn't work and you are sufficiently threatening, you will be executed.

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On Pizzagate: It is a major problem for them. They use to find their blackmail networks comforting in a way as they all knew

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Q: Is human sacrifice among elites a thing?

Response: Very overblown, but not unheard of.

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Anon, do you honestly believe these people are serious?

Think about what a joke it is to say let's stop having the CIA traffic drugs - if that is as far as you go. You've just put a serious kink in the monetary order without any ideas about how to compensate for that.

We let your politicians run drugs and have orgies with children because they have a functioning methodology of governance and you don’t.

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All of these things should be regarded as part of a broader modus operandi of blackmail. Sufficiently expansive blackmail networks confer short-term stability to systems of governance. They tend to degrade the quality of governance over the long-term, however.


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The lesson you should take from events like Seth Rich is that good intent is worthless without good plans.

You guys do a good job of questioning what you are told in a detail oriented fashion, but not in the abstract.

You need to emerge from your indoctrination into the real world and appreciate principles of reality such as the law of the jungle.

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Comey does not have the authority to challenge Clinton on the email server question.

It was state sanctioned to intentionally leak a combination of information and disinformation. 

Don't interpret this as an apology for the behavior. The Clintons always use state sanction to cover their arse, justified or not.

9/11:

There isn't a singular answer to 9/11. It covered up financial crimes, gave an excuse for a more totalitarian state, justified foreign intervention, stabilized the unipolar economic arrangement, etc.

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Question: was 9/11 inside job

Response: Yes and no. Most of the people who organized it report to the British crown, but most of them hold US citizenship. Outsiders that have penetrated the gates.

The official story is complete nonsense.

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9/11 was an inside job. Controlled demolition.

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The crown used 9/11 to cover up their financial attack on Russia 10-15 years earlier. Longer term, they hoped to use it to bring down America too.

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Do you know how the USSR was brought down?

CIA (Bush, Clinton) cocaine trafficking provided a large portion of the funds that were used to buy off a variety of people in the USSR's society from the mob to high level politicians.

The other side of this was fraudulent bonds issued from 9/11/91 to 9/13/91 with ten year expiration dates.

So on the one hand you can credit these people for taking down the soviet union, but on the other hand you have things like 9/11 as a coverup of their means of doing it.

The Clinton Foundation operates on these principles.

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Not directly. The money from these bond issuances were used to buy up assets in the old USSR. That's where the close ties between Bush/Clinton and Russian oligarchs originates. Biden's involvement in Ukraine gas, or Clinton in the nuclear deals as examples.


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Are you saying that evidence of these fraudulent bond sales was destroyed on 911?

Response: yes

>Q: Clintons were involved in 9/11

Is her campaign logo alluding to their involvement?

Response: Of course. They pretend to be very proud of it behind closed doors.



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The Clintons are highly sophisticated actors.

Anything they do will have several layers of deception built into the activity.

Surface con: silly grandma

One level deeper: evade FOIA

Deeper: conceal pay-to-play schemes

Defense, that can be exercised quietly: FBI can't touch this, because it is a national security operation to intentionally leak disinformation

Deeper: and now you have cover for actually selling state secrets

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The best planning you can do for mad max scenarios is help make sure they never happen. Second to this would be learning to survive in such a scenario, but only because education is generally good for you - not because it is likely.

There are not many actual satanists among the elite. They like this perception because it is induces fear and inaction, or chasing ghosts.

Yes, it's true that poor behavior is endemic, from theft all the way up to child r/#e. It's better described as degeneracy and perpetuation of blackmail rings. Hardly any of them think something along the lines of "evil is actually good, the masses got it backwards."

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9/11 serves many purposes, one of which was restarting the opium trade.

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Not everyone involved in the drug cartels is part of the CIA.

9/11, in terms of the actual specifics of the attack, was done to cover up the issuance of fraudulent bonds 10 years earlier that were used to buy up Russian assets after USSR collapse in conjunction with cocaine money.

The placement of blame was to enable resumption of heroin business.

The big bosses in the drug trade are worth billions.

Technology:

There is far more than this currently available, but not put to use. The potential we have now, today, would blow your mind.

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The regime actively snuffs out thought provokers, especially in terms of censorship or not putting content into mainline distribution channels but also in more extreme ways

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>>80657972 #
Q: If this is real, they're likely sitting on the following: advanced medicine, advanced weaponry, advanced computers, advanced communication, and non-fossil fuel energy that is more dependable than wind and solar power.


>>80658395 #
All of the above, yes.

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As far as technology goes, the gap between what is in the public domain and what is utilized is far more significant than between what is public and private. For example, you can build a space elevator today and completely revolutionize the world with only knowledge in the public domain.

The biggest gap between private sector technology and things in the public domain is in the field of biotech. There are a number of cures for various things that are not public for a variety of reasons.

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We have the ability to build a space elevator. Rockets cannot get you within an order of magnitude of $20/kg.
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I'll illustrate an example using only known, public technology:

Combine a space elevator (>ability to run power cables to the ground) with the unlimited real estate in space (>100-1000x concentration power from cheap mirrors) and you can drop power generation costs to about 1/10th of a penny per kWh for something on the order of 18TW of generation (100x reduction in cost of energy supplies) and you have no scaling limitations (until you get several orders of magnitude beyond what we currently use anyway)

All of this can be done with current technology and engineering ability to bring global GDP per capita above $1 million within 10-15 years.


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Build space elevator for cheap access to LEO (4-5 year project).

Send resources to do the same on Mars (5-6 years)

You'd need something on the order of the current global energy use running through a superconducting wire around Mars to get a comparable magnetic shield, plus a sizable mirror array to heat the planet up a bit. Transfer excess CO2 from Earth to Mars and you're pretty much there, plus you solved the problem of ocean acidification (the only real threat from the recent and future carbon intensity here)
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We have the technology to deploy space elevators today, but none exist.

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Coupling to the planet solves the transverse instability.

Something like kevlar is sufficient for a several hundred km long tether and not conductive, never mind the ability to gap between a hanging tether and elevated platform.

We have no intention of building the popularly conceived ~40k km tether held in place with a counterweight. See proposals by Tesla, Birch, etc.

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It's possible with current technology to switch completely over to solar power based in space. We can supply the entire world's energy needs at annual profit of $15 trillion or so with a few trillion dollar upfront investment.

That's enough to cut taxes to zero, but any sort of similar thing will work. Large scale profitable infrastructure investment.

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The heavy falcon is projected at $1000/kg in mass production and its design is retarded for this purpose (landing with rockets instead of parachutes). Actual launch costs are closer to $400-500/kg (we're not using rockets designed for Elon's Mars fetish) if you wanted to do it all with rockets. Even then, we're not talking about the best design - a space elevator would only cost about $100B and drop launch costs to $10/kg.

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In practice you would want dual use out of the system. Ever heard of tunable opacity windows? It is possible to deploy a shield that varies the amount of light blocked. This is the sort of effect you would want to be able to turn way up during intense solar storms for example, never mind fine tuning global temperatures.

Climate sensitivity is on the low end of IPCC estimates. The consensus figure went down multiple times over the last couple decades of IPCC reports - the fear mongers definitely had and retain unwarranted influence.

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No immediate catastrophe. Ocean acidification is more of a problem than warming. We already have sufficient technology to move off of carbon energy for the power grid. Climate change should be considered almost a nonissue.

Fusion will come but there are still significant technological hurdles and not much funding for solving them.
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Typical solar today is about 300 watts/kg.

By going to space, you get about 4 times the power as you would on Earth (better exposure times, and more actual exposure from a lack of atmosphere).

So you'd calculate your benefit something like this:

0.3 kw * 4 * 20 years * $0.12 / kwh = $25,000

You have to go on to deduct your launch costs ($1000/kg), cost of transmission equipment and the panels themselves (roughly double your weight for wireless transmission) and get to something like $20,000 in profit for every kilogram of solar panel you put into space as a first approximation.

Elon Musk is purposefully deceiving people.


>Was Elon Musk recruited by the "Illuminati" after applying himself? What's the deal with his divorce/remarriage/divorce to the same woman: is it an elaborate tax evasion/money laundering/Clinton Foundation donation scheme, or even at your elite level cuckoldry by women is a problem?

As a technologist, he is a horrid distraction.

As to your other line of inquiry, you're very aware. You'll find many cases of companies being created and promoted by groups specifically to fund other enterprises. Another obvious example is Uber getting a free pass from municipalities that you wouldn't otherwise expect. These things are allowed to fund other projects.

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What technological advancements have we achieved that are not publicly known or have not made available to the public?

Response:We have access to essentially arbitrary levels of energy generation at higher rates of return than that. The economy is primarily a function of energy input, thus the conclusion - to be simple about it.

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We are inclined towards socialization of novel input resources while leaving most of the existing way things work untouched, including existing ownership claims.

If we can generate say 1,000 times as much energy as the world currently uses, we can give you an equal allotment of it to trade. You retain individual or corporate ownership of means of utilizing this energy, the derived products, the value of your labor, etc.
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“We think it is important to depart from the idea of passenger rail and build platform rail. For example, you could drive your car onto a platform and be taken ~500 miles in minutes, completing the first few miles and last few miles in the ordinary way. In other words, enhancing the efficiency of the basic existing system without incurring the costs of the "last mile" problems.”

Medicine / Health:

Unfortunately a lot of people who do good work in this area (cancer/age extension) are being assassinated.

You can see how it is classified as a national security concern even trivially. Obviously initial stages will expand geriatric population as a proportion of the whole before extending productive lifespan. This creates serious allocation issues in the current system.

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We are not capable of significant extension of productive lifespan yet. If we stop largely stop death but don't restore vitality it will collapse society.

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Not overpopulation.

The most promising avenues for life extension are turning back the clock on stem cell lines. We already have a pretty robust ability to do this, but it carries the burden of massively increased cancer risk.

The issue here is that we're in an intermediate stage of being able to prolong life, but not really restore vitality. Cancer cure has to be kept on the shelf otherwise you get a population skew even more heavily towards geriatrics than we have today.


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Q: What was the big deal with medicating young children? Is it just unmitigated pharmaceutical greed leaking out into society, or is there something even more nefarious at play? ... Was it calculated to have some affect on this generation of adults?

Response:The more false ideas you inject in a young mind the harder it is for it to emerge as a conscious entity.

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In about 25 years, aging will be 'cured' in practice: the life expectancy will go up >=1 year each year. There will still be unsolved problems, people will still die from trauma, heart attacks without rapid care, novel issues will develop both from unchartered age territory and unexpected consequences of some treatments.


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Cancer cure in particular is controlled because most life extension technology has this as a side-effect.

It is much harder to extend functional life than to maintain a geriatric state.

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Not quite, but close.

The most viable short-term techniques will involve a combination of the ability to cure malignant cancer with switching certain stem cell populations back on. Your youth and vitality are largely, not entirely, a function of more active germ lines in your youth that tend to shut down overtime. This protects you from cancer, but isn't necessary if we can provide the same protection via other means.

There are many other significant hurdles that remain to reach anything like a "fountain of youth" beyond this though.

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Yes. It has been known for many years before cancer became a major problem that dealing with it was a key to extending human longevity. One of the reasons they spread cancer in society was to recruit funding for studying it.

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Average person will benefit.

Part of the problem here is that wealth is concentrated in the old population and so a lot of R&D goes towards keeping them limping along rather than extending productive life of younger people.

You can't end up in a situation where your population trends towards 100% geriatrics without collapsing society.

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Question:

>>99686504 #
/pol/ has slowed down a lot since the election, FYI. You're not reaching as many eyeballs today. I'll ask some random questions that I've wondered about though.

1. Do you take any supplements or nootropics? Got any recommendations?

2. Which psychedelics have you found to be the most enlightening?

3. Have you ever tried 4-aco-DMT? I tried some on the recommendation of another /pol/ack a couple months back. It's quite refreshing and can be bought on the surface net.

4. Will we ever eliminate or significantly reduce the need to sleep? If so, how far away are we?

5. One of Anonymous5's big bombshells is that feminists and other SJW types are suffering from frontal lobe damage and that long-term use of birth control is a major cause of it. Any truth to this?

Response:

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I supplement my vitamin / mineral intake. Nootropics, not so much.

2ct7, but I suspect you don't get much out of it without good companions dosing on it with you.

No

I'm not well versed in sleep science. Massive life extension is around the corner though which I think mitigates the concern over "wasted" sleep time.

Yes

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In general, avoid bioaccumulation of waste. Your body isn't perfect at removing it, especially the stuff that makes it to the brain.

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Modern epidemic with many and varied contributing factors from lack of physical activity, sunlight, deficient diets, intentional poisoning, high tech warfare, and so on.

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Question: 
Can you elaborate on the intentional poisoning and high tech warfare? How do these go beyond things like poorly constructed infrastructure creating problems with water supply, toxic housing, etc.?

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Everything from the routine like content delivery like TV shifting your brain state, inhibiting imagination, the massive amount of money poured into co-opting long format discussion online like on /pol/ to destabilizing the biosphere with malevolent genetic engineering.

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Yes. The medical revolution is going to emerge seemingly overnight in about 15-20 years.

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Question:
Any dietary tips for plebs that aren't widely known?


Response: Don't eat more than once or twice a day (if you are very physically active)

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Question:  Anonymous (ID: El4xffIN)  11/22/16(Tue)23:03:53 No.99830765


1. Obesity: Is the cure under wraps or could just walk into a store and buy something off the shelves? If it is under wraps, is there a natural way of combating this through a diet of foods/vitamins?
2. You mentioned before in one of your previous threads: 

>Questioning everything especially our own assumptions. Most importantly, the assumptions you've made and don't even realize.

What are some other advice like the above that you abide by that others should know or abide by?
3. When will we see Three's Federalist papers? Could you give us an estimate of the earliest and latest time that it will be done so that can view it?
4. Not sure if anyone asked, but do you mind explaining the OP image from yesterday and today's image? 2-4 sentences please
5. Have you laughed at anything in these question sessions?

Response: 
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Don't eat anything for a few days, spending a couple days consuming light basic drinks then acidic ones and dose up on a good probiotic while maintaining a healthy vitamin/mineral intake.

Your very language has been intentionally crafted and manipulated to limit you. Vocabulary in the popular discourse is often ill-defined and incoherent. Pay particular attention to your words, axiomatize your reasoning, carry out your logic and test it at the extremes, learn and refine from the process.

We are going to give the new administration some time to develop and go from there. You can expect an even more major influence on the dialogue by the next election and a dominating influence on the subsequent one.

The images are a combination of general thought provokers, particular publicly accessible meaning, and sometimes privately assessable meaning to colleagues. They are worth thinking about, but not lingering over.

Sure, especially the derailing efforts. They are comically ineffective. There is a lesson to be learned there for all of you who seek to shape the narrative going forward.

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Most important thing is to protect your mind. Physical ailments will go away in about 15-20 years

General Outlook:

My purpose is to turn you into a more potent person. You express what you lack through your questions and I fill the gap.

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We live in a very primitive society ruled by the law of the jungle. The most significant capital is weapon-based leverage.

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Your biggest roadblock will always be your assumptions about limitations.

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>How is your group organized/orchestrated/able to affect change?

We primarily use the power of ideas, but not always. Our organization is primarily vested in the preservation of knowledge and forum for discussion that might not go over well in public.

>How do your goals differ from those of your opponents? Do you have opponents?

There are a couple of factions in the world that have always believed in preserving a knowledge gap. We are opposed to that.


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Do you not think your condition has improved over the last 100 years? Or 200 years? Or 300 years?

We give you the ability to communicate with anyone on the planet, unlimited educational tools, open libraries, and yet all you can do is point towards bad things instead of imagining a better future. Of course we provide the future as long as that is true.

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If you had specific, actionable plans with a reasonable basis for outcome improvement you'd be well on your way to seeing them come to fruition.

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These consequences are the result of choices that the masses made, not choices made for them.

Again, how would you do better?

If you can't answer that, you can't say we're doing wrong by you.

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A lot of your hearts are in the right place but your faculties of reason are failing.

Corruption is an essential element of the existing system. As I mentioned earlier, CIA drug running as an example.

This has consequences that no one likes, yes, but how would you do better?

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As to the NAU, we don't care about "one world government" so to speak. Multiple governments that can be controlled or one government that can be controlled is functionally equivalent as far as we are concerned.

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We have no interest in depopulation schemes or the like.

It's true that some elements of some governments entertain these ideas, but they strongly prefer growing population and more worker bees subject to their ability to manage it.

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Depends on what you mean on purpose.

No one created a tobacco industry to secretly depopulate you. People have promoted it because exploitation of physical addiction is profitable.

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We don't assess society as capable of open rational discussion.

Many have died overreaching like this in the past and dark ages have resulted.

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>what potential do we have

We estimate the ability to deliver a sustained 25%+ GDP growth rate for a period of no less than 30 years.

That's roughly equivalent to giving every person on the planet a lifestyle similar to a low end billionaire today.

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You have another financial crisis coming in the near future. There will be an intense war of ideas with respect to how to reshape society with lasting consequences that plays out as a result.

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Q: So as far as I get it your true goal is to try and preserve (or maybe even advance) civilization, sanity and enlightment so we can avoid or at least soften the cyclical periods of collapse and literal madness orgies that have repeatedly happen trough the true history because we are slowly approaching the point of no return for the next one?

Response:
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Very good description

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We're here to give you an "all of the above" approach. Help fill in your gaps on anything from history, politics, economics, scientific potential, etc. You need a broad and deep comprehension of the world if you want to change the way it operates.

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It's important to create disincentives towards your own failure as well as incentives for others to accept your success.

You will best realize your ability to influence the world through the hard work of learning and applying tangible, technological achievement to subduing nature, coupled with an acceptance of reality - i.e., rejecting the illusion of a civil society in favor of the law of the jungle, but without falling off the deep end to mad max fantasies.

Do I know things I wish I didn't? It's hard to say the ignorant life is better not living it, but certainly a lot of knowledge is very burdensome.

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Your main limitation is your belief in things that are not true.

Try to axiomatize your worldview. Test these assumptions by examining the extrema of their consequences. Get rid of or add new assumptions and examine what you can no longer explain or the validity of new deductions.

You'll come to know yourself and your world in this way.

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Think of school as providing you two things: exposure to how minds are twisted by institutions, and checking off a prerequisite box to get you a job with decent pay. School is not where you go to get educated in any general sense. Best thing to do is pick a tolerable major that pays well.

You want to create a lot of free time for yourself - here's your real opportunity to learn and develop.

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We're currently projecting the US public will be ready to return to good governance within a decade. We think within a decade of that you'll see real median incomes of $500,000/year. If the public is responsible enough to accept a reasonable portion of that going towards mitigation of society-wide catastrophic events (Yellowstone, solar flares, asteroid protection, robust protection against pandemics, and so on) then we think this will result in a self-sustaining shift towards a much more enlightened society. Perhaps 25 years from now you'll have life expectancy increasing at a rate of at least 1 year per year.

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There's not much to be gained from provisioning for mad max scenarios. It's a very popular thing in your controlled "opposition" media precisely because it is a waste of your time.

Let imagination be a more potent driver than fear in your life.

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No aliens. Demons only of the mind. Assassins are real and often used. Regular people are not really in danger just being aware, but you can get killed for inventing something that someone else wants or being smart enough to articulate alternatives to the regime, charismatic enough to gain a following, etc.
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It was meant as a 10x improvement in real terms per capita, i.e., an elimination of poverty and the sort of conditions that allow extensive free time to develop as a person.
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We're in favor individual agency and that includes weaponization, as well as free speech, OK with but not necessarily supports of drug use, like the right to privacy, and will eliminate direct taxes but retain indirect ones.

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You should have at least passing familiarity with the ideas being published by Brookings, CFR, AEI in terms of geo and domestic politics.

If you want a lot of regularly published hard intelligence, EIR is good although highly cultish.

12,000+ year old Unified Global Civilization: Part 1 (x-post from r/conspiracy)

12,000+ year old Unified Global Civilization: Part 2

Supposed to be 10 parts once completed

Eta: linked in comments is a new (to me) rabbit hole, r/holofractal. Thine, avoid it unless you've got time to spare

Ex-Illuminati Banker Exposes The Elite - In English Audio - Ronald Bernard

Pretty crazy. Dutch banker Ronald Bernard exposes the elite's child sacrifices and world manipulation

TL;DR

>former successful business man and functional psychopath
>offered position in the (((financial world))) due to accomplishments
>warned to decline offer unless he can "put his conscience in the freezer"
>becomes money laundering middleman for world governments, covert agencies, and terrorist groups as well as currency manipulator
>says Panama papers are practically nothing compared to what's going on all the time
>mentions his peers and superiors all worship Lucifer
>after proving his usefulness for years he's determined to be a liability
>told to commit child sacrifice to prove his loyalty and as lifelong blackmail
>has mental breakdown instead
>claims the only reason he's alive is because he's never discussed the specifics of the events he was apart of

fullchan thread

That is where I originally saw that video and it has some talk in it.