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re: Weekly Pit Bull Accident thread

Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:11 am to
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:11 am to
Oh sure! Your dog is cool to you but would go full killer on a weaker human in the right situation. When they snap, They maim or kill. Most cases where a pit kills someone you read where the owner said they were so sweet and see a photo of it all cuddled up to somebody.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:42 am to
What's awesome is pit bulls are popular because they make good guard dogs.

"I don't know why he mauled someone! He's always been so sweet!"

One week before:

"Check out my dog. Anyone comes on my property he's gonna frick them up!"
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 7:00 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:56 am to
We have a lab/pit mix, but we don't have kids and we are careful with him around our family and friends' kids. He's been fine, but it's not worth the risk.

I also hope all the rednecks that "would put one down if it comes around my place" are just shooting their mouths off, or at least understand what they are doing.
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:59 am to
quote:

Maybe, I don't know. I do know that of the vets my wife is friends with, all but one own what most would consider a pit bull. It's just silly to me that people have such zeal for banning a breed of dog. So you ban pits, then what? Where does it end? What is an acceptable number of dog related deaths?

1) most people just look at a scary dog and say its a pitbull, even though its probably a mutt. pitbull is a blanket term for scary looking dog... it could be an American bulldog, dogo, pressa... but they'll still call it a pitbull
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2) then dog attacks by shepherds and rotts will increase and they'll want to ban them too
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2486 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 7:55 am to
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But couldn't the same be said for any animal of similar size? It's not like they are any stronger or faster than other dogs. What about the number of pit type dogs vs the number of rots or mastiffs that you have worked with? Would it be fair to say you have seen far more pits?

yes they ARE stronger than other animals of their size and their attack behavior is different than others. Other dogs bite and release whereas the pit bull holds on to the death unless they are shot or hit on the head with a bat. They cause far more damage to a person in an attack than other dogs. Our neighbor's 7 year old son's face looked like a butcher carved filet mignons out of his cheeks. If you take the time to read this website with input from doctors, you might understand.

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Posted by iwasthere
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:03 am to
Just reading the first person opinions in that article tells you it is biased. They compare wanting to own pits to wanting to own assault weapons. They say there is no need for either. If that is your stance fine, it doesn't make it right. They mention need. Besides service dogs, what dog is needed? Do you need a Pom of shitzu? Pits are dangerous when not properly trained and not prepared to handle. Pits can be great dogs when raised properly.
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:14 am to
No, I am talking about reading the DOCTORS' descriptions of what they've seen in the ER. I'm not talking about anyone's 'need' as an argument. We don't 'need' or have the right to own a tiger either though...and these animals are dangerous too.
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:27 am to
pitbull is not as dangerous as a tiger...
again, a lot of these dogs are mutts, not pits. my homeowners insurance got cancelled because I had a lab/boxer mix that "looked like a pitbull"
Posted by iwasthere
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2010
1915 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:29 am to
And the first doctor mentions at first he usually saw single bites from a single dog. The pitbull attacks he mentioned were mostly from packs, not individual dogs. They compare a single dog attack to a pack attack. Of course there will be a difference. All I am saying is that first DOCTOR is biased and you can see it.
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2486 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:35 am to
I guess if you've tried to save people from a pit bull attack you would have a certain bias. I find that bias more useful than the bias of a pit bull owner saying their dog is just a big sweetie pie.

Posted by Barf
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:46 am to
My wife talks pretty openly about her time at fairly large city's animal control facility and how the pitbull attacks that took place almost never involved a pitbull. However, nearly every dog in the shelter was some type of dog that would be called a pit. It's kind of a weird thing that goes on in reporting, not all that different than what goes on when the news reports on firearms or some other scary topic. Dog attack headlines simply don't get enough views but if you throw the term pitbull in there people get these giant angry hard ons.

I realize it's a matter of personal opinion and some people feel very strongly but the fear is baseless for the most part.

If we are going to throw around anecdotal evidence why can't we take a look at what became of the dogs owned by Michael Vick? Or does that story no fit the fear mongering narrative?

Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2486 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:53 am to
the fear is NOT baseless. Statistics are your friend.
Posted by Barf
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Statistics are your friend.



That's a pretty bold statement.
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4222 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:04 am to
quote:

how the pitbull attacks that took place almost never involved a pitbull. However, nearly every dog in the shelter was some type of dog that would be called a pit.


because people can't properly identify one... but, lets skip over that little fact
Posted by Hoobie74
Member since Mar 2016
3 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:43 am to
My mother-in-law owns a pit that has attacked numerous family members, killed a handful of cats, has eaten my wife's car twice, eaten neighbors cars. This dog has caused so much greif amoung the family that no one will go to her house anymore. She has taken the dog to the pound only to go get it two days later. She has 9 dogs in a little house and this dog has taken the ears off her other dogs, ripped a leg off one. I just wonder how far it will go before something really bad happens. The dog was used as a bait dog when it was a puppy. She lies to her insurance about the the dog. The best part is she is a anti-gun freak that wants to tell you how big of a man you are to have to carry a gun. What's the difference between a gun and a pit bull? Simple, a gun don't snap......
Sorry about the rant but at a loss on what to do besides keep a loaded gun ready at all times to shoot the damn dog the next time I see it in my yard.......
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2486 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:45 pm to
check out the photos of the dogs....no more doubt that they were actually pit bulls. Horrifying.

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