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re: New study out about intubation and extubation for Covid

Posted on 5/23/20 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 1:17 pm to
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Over a period of a normal few months, how does that compare to young healthy patients coming in for car accidents?




Apples to oranges. Car accidents happen all the time. We all know that is a risk and know people of all ages that have been killed in them.


tigerskin wins Dumbassery prize of the day.

less also than young adult suicide attempts.


you feckless twit.

feckless
irresponsible
useless
worthless
Posted by DavidStHubbins
Member since Oct 2012
37 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 1:21 pm to
Decision-making for tracheostomy in COVID patients is not quite the same as in non-COVID patients. We hadn't really established guidelines for this until well into April. Many of our critical care colleagues frequently consult us to sort through this, particularly in LA as many of our patients have social circumstances and comorbidities that make the decision more difficult than trachs prior to the COVID-era. This is just an observational study pointing out some of the commonalities we deal with to help establish a decision-making tree for these difficult decisions. Most journals of our subspecialty use the term Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery rather than ENT.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40278 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 1:38 pm to
Not sorry that you got so triggered by a simple question
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3703 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 10:52 pm to
Young people with no medical history-I would tend to wonder if they vaped.It seems to be pretty popular these days.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98188 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:21 am to
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Well that's not quite fair .. where I do consulting, we have some who admitted themselves as they didn't want to live alone anymore OR they didn't want to be in their families way in their home OR a few other reasons.

Not all are dumped. There are plenty of residents who enjoy socializing with each other, playing cards, watching movies, going on outings -- they really have no reason to be a DNR. Some really NEED to be DNR but not by any means all.




I had a bachelor uncle who moved into a nursing home when he was in good health but just didn't have any other place to go. He lived there quite a long time and seemed pretty content. My granddad, his brother, would come get him now and then and take him out to eat or even to stay at his house for a few days, but the nursing home was his home. His roommate was a retired merchant marine sailor who could curse more colorfully than anybody I've ever heard.
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