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re: Hydrocodone 10mg/500 is no longer being dispensed by Pharmacists
Posted on 1/12/14 at 1:08 am to jg8623
Posted on 1/12/14 at 1:08 am to jg8623
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I agree. But in this subject science defines "addiction" and "physical dependence" as 2 different things, at least the link that Va posted did. IMO physical dependence is the same thing as addiction. You don't have to blow all your money, steal, or commit crimes to be an addict in my book. Being addicted means you stop taking the drug and your body gets physically ill, meaning you are "physically dependent". Buts that's just my opinion
This makes zero sense. Dependence and addiction are two different things. You are calling dependence addiction and passing it off as "opinion," when in fact it is just your misunderstanding of the definition of each term. There are other classes of medications aside from opioids that should not be stopped suddenly (such as certain steroids, antidepressants, etc.). If you take those for an extended period then stop suddenly, your body will have a negative physical response. This does not constitute addiction.
If something is blue and I call it red, it doesn't mean that it is red in my opinion - it means I don't understand what blue is. You don't understand the difference between addiction and dependence.
Dependence is chemical/physical and normal. Addiction is more psychological.
This post was edited on 1/12/14 at 1:12 am
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 6:46 am to 911Moto
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Dependence is chemical/physical and normal. Addiction is more psychological.
I think this is an important point, but the 2 are related. For example, taking pain medication for an extended period of time can result in physical dependence. Compare 2 drugs with, perhaps, the most significant history of abuse: heroin and cocaine.
Heroin, an opoid analgesic, results in significant physical dependence and very rapid increased tolerance - almost the perfect recipe for a drug of addiction. Cocaine, on the other hand, does not result in physical dependence and is solely a psychological addiction.
So, clearly the physical dependence CAN reinforce a drug of addiction's hold, but addiction can operate independently of this process.
Heck, people are addicted to gambling and there's no physical dependence there.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 8:32 am to Ace Midnight
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Cocaine, on the other hand, does not result in physical dependence and is solely a psychological addiction.
Good point.
Addiction and dependency on Opiates is not exactly black and white.Both will suffer the physical withdrawals if they stopped cold turkey.
The one classified as the addict may go to more drastic measures to get out of withdrawal.jmho
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:05 am to Gladius Veritas
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good. People can easily hurt themselves with such huge doses. 500 is fricking ridiculous. 4 or 5 and depending on your body type you could die
That's why doctors don't prescribe 5 doses to be taken simultaneously.
ETA- even then, 2.5g of Tylenol doesn't exceed the new max dose.
This post was edited on 1/12/14 at 11:11 am
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