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Posted on 7/30/08 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 9:44 pm to
i would have to have a ss, 1b, or starter or reliever
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 9:47 pm to
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is ortiz 1b eligible?

No, just UTIL.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 9:52 pm to
ok, you offered me young for vmart already, and im interested in that, since who knows what i will get from vmart when he comes back. this would be a safe move on my part


is albert available?

im am fricking loaded at of and very weak at first

is there anybody, and i mean anybody on my team that you would be interested in if we traded

chris young and albert pujols

for

vmart and __________
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 9:58 pm to
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is albert available?

Probably not. Steep price, at least.
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is there anybody, and i mean anybody on my team that you would be interested in if we traded

chris young and albert pujols

for

vmart and __________

Not just a two-for-two.

Maybe if I was getting 3 or 4 keepers. I'm trying to build around Pujols/A-Rod/Ortiz, so I'd rather not break up that core. I'm more interested in filling in the holes than blowing it all up.

Percival would be available... or Morrow.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:00 pm to
what if carlos lee magically appeared on my team

would carlos and vmart get me albert and young

carlose and albert are pretty similar

albert with a better average, carlos will drive in more runs. im just trying to get stronger at another position as opposed to being too loaded at one position
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:02 pm to
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would carlos and vmart get me albert and young

No, if you really want Pujols, we need to be talking about guys like Kazmir, Pedroia, Ichiro, or maybe Hawpe.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:09 pm to
so you mean like a 3 for 2 on my side?
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:10 pm to
Yeah, but even still... I don't know if I'd trade Pujols unless it was really an offer you'd be dumb to make.

Something like Kazmir, Pedroia, and Carlos Lee for Pujols and Young. Wouldn't make much sense for you.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:14 pm to
well my thought process was that you already said you would trade me young for vmart


im willing to part with pedroia, but yeah, that wouldnt work
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:17 pm to
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ell my thought process was that you already said you would trade me young for vmart

I probably would do that... it would leave me short on starting pitching keepers, but I think the catcher upside is worth it overall.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:18 pm to
ok, so with that settled, what would it take to get pujols


carlos lee for pujols straight up is not an option?
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:20 pm to
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carlos lee for pujols straight up is not an option?

No, I like Lee... but not that much.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:24 pm to
ok what if it was lee and hawpe for pujols?
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:24 pm to
Still no.

Lee and Pedroia?
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:33 pm to
frick, im trying to not lose keepers here, and in my other deal, if hawpe was in play with you, i would have to demand that hawpe stays with me


i looked at your team and i saw you probably didnt have 12 keepers


are you looking at any prospects? i have balentien and fernando martinez to play with


what about if i threw in a pick on top of hawpe and lee?
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:36 pm to
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i looked at your team and i saw you probably didnt have 12 keepers

I'm definitely borderline... I'll end up keeping someone like Phil Hughes if I don't make a move.

Ortiz for Lee? Is that better at all?
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:41 pm to
not really, bc i am full in the u department, and honestly, i think lee is actually more valuable than ortiz at the moment, especially if he loses manny

i am keeping chipper and possibly aramis ramirez, so there goes one u spot, and if i keep hawpe in this deal, i will have lee

frick, i dont know. i thihnk im just talking out of my arse right now

i just know that im prepared to give you 3 keepers for two, and it seemed like that was what you needed
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:45 pm to
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i just know that im prepared to give you 3 keepers for two, and it seemed like that was what you needed

This is true. But I'm not selling Pujols cheap just to get a 2-for-1!

Pedroia interests me the most. I wouldn't mind Ichiro either, just for some balance. Lee and Ichiro would give me 3 keeper OFs though. Maybe 4 depending on Maybin/Rasmus and if I have room for them.

I certainly would be fine with an even deal as well, if I feel like I'm improving my team where I need to improve. (Like Young for VMart...)
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:48 pm to
I'm out for the night... I can't check this or the league at work tomorrow, but I can e-mail if you want to talk further.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:51 pm to
ok, well if i do the lee deal without giving up hawpe, i would have exactly 12 guys that i like

so if i did a deal with you, i would HAVE TO give up one of, bc otherwise my numbers wouldnt work

what two players get me pujols, one has to be an of

i have an idea in my head of what i think is fair, what do you think?
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