re: The Myth debunked!!

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Get over it.

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It seems to me that you should follow you own quote.

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LSUTANGERINE,
I was at the game, there was never a doubt in my mind that there was a face mask on the play,
the question is did the USC line move before the snap and did the line judge throw a flag on the play.

The film of the game does show two linemen move on the play and then the rest of the line moves, I have the whole game on dvd.

The thing you do not see is the line judge on the other side of the field had thrown a flag as he is not in the picture at the time. I turned to my brother in law and said movement on the line as the play started, and I saw the face mask less than 2-3 seconds later.

I also saw the line judge throw the flag and the the flag for the face mask. On the LSU game film you see the line judge throw the flag, per Mac on his post game show. The refs must have waved off the line flag, but they never said anything about the first flag that night or the next day, they only talked of the face mask penalty.

I still have to go back and find the play were the USC player comes off the bench to tackle Gajan, Mac had that play on his show and there is no doubt the player came off bench to tackle Gajan.

USC was the better team that night and had more depth, but the rematch the story had flipped and LSU was clearly the better team.

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Thanks for the comments and insight. I would love to have the entire second half. It goes from right after the snap to right after the snap on every play. They leave out the replays and other commentaries. I am going to try to get it.

It was not until about a year ago that I heard about the illegal procedure non-call. I do dispute it or really agree since I have not seen. But many have commented from slight but noticeable movement to two players standing straight up. So there must be something for folks to comment on. I do dispute the latter though, even without seeing it.

What a game. When I first got the video, it was exciting to watch even 27 years later. And honestly, with all the talk over the years, I fully expected the facemask to phantom. But I digress. The only time in the second half where it was played out on DVD was after the final play. The crowd roared immediately and did not stop, just like folks say. If someone was not watching and did not hear the call, they would have thought LSU completed the TD pass. Impressive by both teams and the fans.

I'll have to look closely for the sideline tackle. ABout when does it occur?

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He settled the argument, end of story

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Benji himself settled it. "When I reached out to grab him," Thibodeaux said, "his head moved, and my hand grazed his facemask." that's from Mule's book a few yrs. back.


that said, folks who were there that night and those who have followed LSU faithfully since back in the day will always legitemately question the no calls on both the false start, and McDonald's intentional grounding...unless of course the LT was eligible on that play.

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A USC fan living in Baton Rouge...

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There are actually five others and those are the ones I know of.

I have the entire play. I need somebody to tell me how to get it on you tube. I have no clue, but would be glad to do it.

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that said, folks who were there that night and those who have followed LSU faithfully since back in the day will always legitemately question the no calls on both the false start, and McDonald's intentional grounding...unless of course the LT was eligible on that play.

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I've been on this board for years and all I have ever heard about from the 5 million people who have said "they were there" was the "phantom" facemask penalty until the It Never Rains in Tiger Stadium thread that prompted LSUTANGERINEUSCSUCKS to post the video and picture. That was the first I had ever heard of a false start.

This guy is not denying the false start. One of you will post it finally, tell LSUTANGERINEPETECAROLLISADUECHE "in your face" or something and we will start this all over again.

That just might work. I will have to play with it. I have a digital camcorder so I think it may work.

My video is pretty clear considering how old it is and the fact it was converted to DVD. I don't know how well it will play on a big screen TV, but we shall see.

LSUTANGERINE

You drug this one up and I'll add my take. When you get the full shot of this play, watch the USC OT in motion before the ball is snapped. The very same play as this facemask penalty. Too obvious to miss. The play should have been blown dead as or at the least off-setting fouls.

In the same drive, USC should have been flagged for intentional grounding also.

Yeah, I was there. It was the first year that I owned season tickets. Add Charles White to the list classless punks as he saluted LSU fans with the bird finger as he jogged off the field.

He thought his shite didn't stink until he hit the NFL. White was and is a worthless piece of shite!

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Now will you agree that the facemask penality should have never happened.

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In the words of lsutangerine

Double KA-KA-KABOOM!