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re: So, If Ridley does not get Out of Bounds....

Posted on 11/30/09 at 10:44 am to
Posted by lsumma09
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 10:44 am to
i get that but its not comparable to Ole Miss where we run a screen in which the play takes longer to develop and we pull lineman meaning that there are many more opportunities for missed assignments than a swing pass where its 1 on 1 with Ridley... we didnt execute the screen at Ole Miss which is why there were 4 guys bearing down on Ridley
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 10:46 am to
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BTW, in the post game field interview, reporter asked twice if they learned anything from the OM game and he said something like, it's the exact same men. They're the same.

Anybody else catch that?
Miles does this in every interview and it's good. After the Georgia game, he was asked "What did you learn about your team today?" Miles replied (not verbatim), "Nothing. Everything about my team I need to know I learned a long time ago. They're resilient, and they're damn strong...."

That is why it was so surprising that Miles sounded as if he was throwing JJ under the bus last week; he never does that. His stance is always, "My players are great, they always play great, and they always have played great."
Posted by specs1
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 10:48 am to
XIV,

Do you have a clip of the after game field interview?
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 10:48 am to
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XIV,

Do you have a clip of the after game field interview?
No
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 10:51 am to
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No.
In that instance it would have made no difference in the outcome whatsoever.
We'd have called a T/O. Then on the last play with 8-9 seconds left, we would have spiked the ball. Nice to see Ridley working hard to get out of bounds on that play though.



lol

first, you are assuming that from their 41 yard linewith under 15 seconds left, we spike it, then you are assuming that we complete a play, hopefully out of bounds, but possibly in bounds, and that we get the spike off

and if we dont gain any yards, you are just assuming that we would have made a 58 yard field goal as time expires for the win?

..........
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 10:51 am to
Yeah the swing pass is a lot different than a screen. Jefferson actually checked down to Ridley on the swing probably because nothing was open downfield, or he didn't feel comfortable waiting for something to develop. Ridley did try to stretch out a few more yards instead of going out early and it nearly cost us big time.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 10:55 am to
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first, you are assuming that from their 41 yard linewith under 15 seconds left, we spike it, then you are assuming that we complete a play, hopefully out of bounds, but possibly in bounds, and that we get the spike off


there was still about 28 seconds on the clock when the play was over.
Posted by Smoke Green
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 10:55 am to
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Clock management was marginally better but by no means excellent.



what would have been viewed as excellent clock management, w/1:05 to go, 2nd and 16 and no TO's?
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 10:57 am to
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it was not a screen


I know, I misspoke. Regardless, it's a lateral pass at a time when we need vertical passes. He caught the ball in an area that we should not have been attacking, because more often than not, that play nets very little yardage AND typically is downed in bounds.
Posted by Geauxbot
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:17 am to
Does anyone have a screenshot showing where Ridley goes down on that play?

Also, does anyone know how much time ticked off earlier in that drive after Randle's 11-yard grab on 2nd and 16 and the next play? If I remember correctly, that was the only play that did not stop the clock.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:19 am to
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there was still about 28 seconds on the clock when the play was over.



yeah, and when you dont get out of bounds, the clock keeps running, and AT LEAST ten seconds are burned off, bc we will have to respot the ball, get set, and spike it


and for the person earlier who said it was a second down play, it was not, it was a first down play
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:20 am to
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Does anyone have a screenshot showing where Ridley goes down on that play?



i doubt anyone has a screen shot of it, but just trust us when we tell you he was CLEARLY down in bounds
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:34 am to
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yeah, and when you dont get out of bounds, the clock keeps running, and AT LEAST ten seconds are burned off, bc we will have to respot the ball, get set, and spike it


yes, but you can't just jump from this to a last-second, 58 yard field goal attempt...
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:40 am to
show me where i said that

ive already done a thread on this the night of the game

play end at the arky 41 with 28 seconds left. clock keeps running. ball has to be set, we have to snap and spike. lets just call it 15 seconds. so then we have third down and 1. 15 seconds left from the 41


NOTHING in there guarantees that "everything would have been fine" like you or whoever else posted earlier

it was a bad play call, simple as that, and had we not been given the out of bounds, and not made that field goal, this board would be in a total meltdown/uproar, but bc we did get the gift and we did hold on to win, everything is roses
Posted by RMLtiger
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:42 am to
He was not supposed to take on the tackler. He is taught to head straight out of bounds after the catch. That play is called all the time in the two minute drill.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:46 am to
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but bc we did get the gift and we did hold on to win,


your implication that this was a gift that gave us the game is just as irrational as the "everything would've been fine" view. The play call was fine, Ridley just didn't get out of bounds like he was supposed to.

Posted by TigerStuckinOkieland
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:00 pm to
There was still time to spike the ball and run at least 1 more play - that's assuming that JJ isn't gunshy of spiking the ball!

Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:02 pm to
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your implication that this was a gift that gave us the game is just as irrational as the "everything would've been fine" view. The play call was fine, Ridley just didn't get out of bounds like he was supposed to.





it didnt GIVE us the game. what it did though was allow us to tie it up easier. again, im not saying we wouldnt have tied it up in the first place, but the saying that everything would have been fine was just ignorant
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 1:38 pm to
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Does anyone have a screenshot showing where Ridley goes down on that play?

This post was edited on 11/30/09 at 1:39 pm
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