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re: One of the original “Chinese Bandits” has left us

Posted on 1/19/21 at 4:37 am to
Posted by 8miles
slidell
Member since Oct 2005
5653 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 4:37 am to
He truly was a great man and will be missed. A true legend in the New Orleans coaching circle. Rip Coach Lavin!!!!
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:30 am to
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The Bandits were defensive specialists and usually did not play both ways.


The former is true, but the latter suggests a misunderstanding of what was going on.

The substitution rules forced a change in philosophy in order to keep star players rested. The result of Dietzl's experimentation was the White, Go(ld) and Chinese Bandit squads - when a player was pulled during that time, he could not re-enter the game until the next quarter. Dietzl and staff would then try to predict what the final possession would be and sub the backups (Go or CB) in for that, with the goal of inserting the White team at the beginning of the next quarter.

Although Dietzl and Mac dearly loved the Bandits, they wanted the White team on the field with the game on the line.

Bottom line - all the players of that era played both ways out of necessity - typically, Dietzl wanted the White team on the field at key points, whether on defense or offense. The backups were tailored to their specialty, but a turnover or other unforeseen turn of the game would cause them to play the other way.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:30 am
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20855 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:58 am to
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He died from complications following a fall and a broken hip.



Damn! What is it about broken hips that seems to accerate health issues?? Same thing happened to my Dad as well as my Uncle...

RIP Coach Lavin...
Posted by Tigre85
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2019
1919 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 11:45 am to
My dad was captain of the 58 team . He died 22 years ago from Alzheimer's . It was tough . He was on the white team and started on offense and defense . Had to be brutal . Hang in there and always remember the good times .
Posted by irishmml
Member since Jan 2021
2 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:06 pm to
That was true for the most part, except that Dietzel originally designated the Chinese Bandits as playing both ways. My dad - Jim Lavin and Ray Spence were the original 2 Chinese Bandits that he put on the chalk board after practice one day.
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