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re: JJ Running/ Passing QB

Posted on 2/23/10 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by LSUFan760
Member since Feb 2010
342 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

so close yet so far away




Is that all you have to say???
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 6:22 pm to
what i have to say is just b/c jj may look similar to sam bradford, its foolish to incinuate that their play is on the same level.

John Elway and JLee have similar physical abilities.. how about I make like comparisons to those two.



Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

He's a good QB that needs an even better QB COACH! And YES, he can win a championship.

Just wanted to say this was a solid post (before you get hammered by the Decliners).
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

You should know by now...

Yeah, you're right. But I did offer an alternative question as opposed to the "asked and answered" format...
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 6:39 pm to
decliners, negatigers, unbelievers, whatever you wanna call it.. some of you really should put the kool aid down and see things for what they are.
only thing JJ didnt do this past season that JL did the yr before was not throw as many picks.
He doesn't lead the offense any better than JL did.

Id be curious to see our 3 and outs in 09 compared to 2008.
im not advocating a qb change... however I am a fan of open qb competion this spring and fall.
JJ has done nothing to make me believe or make me WANT to believe he is the undisputed leader of our offense.
This post was edited on 2/23/10 at 6:44 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10325 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

JJ didnt do this past season that JL did the yr before was not throw as many picks.
He doesn't lead the offense any better than JL did.

quote:

put the kool aid down


You're the one who needs to abstain.
J Lee- as a starter '08
1873Yds, 53.2%, 6.96ypa, 13TD, 16Int, 115.7QBrat
This is with a substantially better rush attack and protection than JJ had.
Want to throw in the 09 start? Didn't think so.
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

and no DOC no boom.....1/100 isnt consistant...

Hey, hate to break up your JJ hate-fest, but are you allergic to the dictionary? Where are you, Doc? I was writing "Crowden" for some time, and he caught it. (I'm lucky I had the correct spelling in the customized "spell-check" in my articles for which I actually get paid...)

But man, if you're gonna question Jefferson's academic progress, especially since he's an African-American QB, man-up and look over your posts just a little maybe? Anyways...
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 7:24 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/23/10 at 9:07 pm
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 7:28 pm to
so in three more games started and played jj had 300 more yrds passing and 4 more tds than JL

logic says with a better running game you run the ball more correct? '
worse running game you run the ball less and pass more correct?

look im not making this a JL/JJ debate.. both IMO are mediocre and if significant improvement at the qb postion is not made QUICK, we are looking at another 3-4-5 place finish in the sec.
thats a fact.
This post was edited on 2/23/10 at 7:32 pm
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

especially since he's an African-American QB




some of you just absolutley can not fricking stand it can you?
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10325 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

logic says with a better running game you run the ball more correct? '
worse running game you run the ball less and pass more correct?

Should I have to explain what a decent rush attack does for a passing game?
Explain comp% difference for me.
You can't spin this to anyone who knows a little bit about football.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

Where are you, Doc?


TheDoc =/= Doc Fenton
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

Should I have to explain what a decent rush attack does for a passing game

no, it makes it more of an option
quote:

Explain comp% difference for me.

56 to 63.. wow.
quote:

You can't spin this to anyone who knows a little bit about football.

and assuming you know about football, i will also assume you either are on drugs or just simply prefer quoting stats and didnt really watch last year games if think jj is head and shoulders above jl simply based on the yrs they started and the stats they accumulated.
This post was edited on 2/23/10 at 7:48 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10325 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

56 to 63.. wow.


Knock 7% off 56% and say wow.

7.32ypa vs 6.96, QB ratings, it all adds up in your defence of Lee.
JJ has done a better job in looking at stats and games. I no longer see the other team running our passes back the other way for scores.

Bye now.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 8:04 pm to
53.2
61.5

Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

Im pretty sure if you would add CONSISTANTLY behind IN-STRIDE in your post,,, makes your point much more accurate.

Or YOU could heed your own advice and "consistently" spell "CONSISTENTLY" correctly.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 8:10 pm to
sure thing jon
thanks for the advice.
grammar pigs are always welcome on the rant.
This post was edited on 2/23/10 at 8:12 pm
Posted by LSUFan760
Member since Feb 2010
342 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

its foolish to incinuate that their play is on the same level.


I never claimed that JJ plays at the same level.

I said that they have similar physical skills (the measurables).
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 8:13 pm to
ok, my bad...they do.
I dont think JJ has the arm SB does though.
This post was edited on 2/23/10 at 8:14 pm
Posted by LSUFan760
Member since Feb 2010
342 posts
Posted on 2/23/10 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

I dont think JJ has the arm SB does though.


I agree, but that was the closest player that I could compare him to.

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