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re: Jarrett Lee: 89 passes for every 1 Interception
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:15 pm to AlaTiger
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:15 pm to AlaTiger
if only our offense gave half an effort to tackle after the INTs on a number of his pick 6s. I mean come on...pick 6s are pretty unlucky...unless all of them are thrown right to the defender in the flat. I remember the horrible one against Auburn..but other than that..pretty unlucky to actually have 7 pick 6s as oppossed to just 7 INTs.
J Lee deserves this chance albeit in regrettable circumstances.
J Lee deserves this chance albeit in regrettable circumstances.
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:16 pm to Swat5
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if only our offense gave half an effort to tackle after the INTs on a number of his pick 6s.
I clearly remember Lafell giving up on a play that he could of made a tackle on easily. That resulted in a Pick 6
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:22 pm to bubbaprohn
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You also gotta figure when Lee came in teams knew LSU was going to be passing. It's not like he has the running ability of JJ...
He comes in for the last drive against tennessee EVERYONE knew we were going to be passing and he still got it done.
These teams also didn't practice for JL. They practiced for JJ. If you reversed the roles to where JL was the starter and JJ was the change-of-pace QB, teams would be shitting bricks when they go from a statue QB to a guy that will run all over them. The change-of-pace guys usually get the more efficient stats. Like Keiland Williams' stats vs Charles Scott or Mike Ford's stats vs Spencer Ware's.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:23 pm to BayouBlitz
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I can't get seven pic 6's out of my head.
Still had 2000 yards passing while getting slammed constantly playing behind a shitty o-line and that D was awful. Lee has never been given a shot at redemption and JJ is constantly forgiven for any mistake he makes.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:25 pm to coldhotwings
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These teams also didn't practice for JL. They practiced for JJ.
They don't practice defending 4th and 19? Did they think we would run a draw or something in that situation? COME ON dude
The dude shined when the spot light was on him. He was put into crucial situation after crucial situation. He played hardly no mop up duty because we put away no times last year.
Stop trying to make excuses
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:25 pm to AlaTiger
Isn't Lee a lot easier for the opposing team's defense to plan around?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:32 pm to LSU1NSEC
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Isn't Lee a lot easier for the opposing team's defense to plan around?
Not necessarily. JL doesn't need to be a running threat to be successful. He just needs to learn how to move around in the pocket and know when to tuck and run. I'll take a 3 yard scramble than an ill-advised pass once the pressure is on.
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:42 pm to Tigerbait337
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Stop trying to make excuses
Making excuses on why I think Lee won't throw for only 3-4 interceptions as a full-time starter? Sure, let's make a bet. I'll go for the over and you go for the under.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:43 pm to coldhotwings
You're making excuses on why lee was successful last season
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:47 pm to Tigerbait337
Yeah I was making a point on why his interception ratio looked really good. Highlight any statements where I said Lee wasn't any good. All I was saying is that he had better efficiency because of limited opportunities as a change of pace QB. I don't know why you are picking a fight just to pick a fight.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:51 pm to coldhotwings
But you also said the reason was because he was put in situations in which he could excel, when that's the complete opposite of the truth..
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:58 pm to AlaTiger
I sincerely wish Lee the best of luck. He's been tossed to the wolves many times and often doesn't receive the respect and gratitude he deserves. Seriously, he's been Les' "clean up" tool when other QB's wet the bed. Maybe Lee's new name should be Mr. "c-Lee-n up" 
I see him going for broke with this opportunity,wondering if and when JJ will make a return to take the starting role from him. That being said, I also expect to see big numbers from him, hopefully in respect to yardage and TD's!
I see him going for broke with this opportunity,wondering if and when JJ will make a return to take the starting role from him. That being said, I also expect to see big numbers from him, hopefully in respect to yardage and TD's!
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:59 pm to Stingray
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I cant get that la tech game where lee was pitiful out of my head.
How about JJ's games against McNeese State last year? That was even worse and was LAST year after starting all season not coming in for your first start of the year. At least Lee didn't net 4 yards of offense against a team significantly worse than La Tech.
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:07 pm to Tigerbait337
Crowton's playbook requires the QB to run on a ton of plays. These were designed to where JJ was the best fit. During situations where they are abandoning these plays, JL would take over. He gets the plays where he drops back in the pocket and throws the ball. No QB dives, option reads, or bootlegs. Pretty much Crowton abandons his philosophy to accommodate Lee when he comes in. This is great for a few drives here and there but this is not meant for 60 minutes of play under the playbook they had last year.
Now, in comes Steve Kragthorpe. There is no telling what he is going to run at LSU because we haven't see it yet. If he likes options and scrambles then Lee is in trouble. If he likes the QB to drop back 3-5 steps and unload immediately, then Lee may have fabulous stats. I'll tell you one thing. Charlie Weis could be his OC and I'll still guarantee you that he'll throw for more than 3-4 interceptions.
Now, in comes Steve Kragthorpe. There is no telling what he is going to run at LSU because we haven't see it yet. If he likes options and scrambles then Lee is in trouble. If he likes the QB to drop back 3-5 steps and unload immediately, then Lee may have fabulous stats. I'll tell you one thing. Charlie Weis could be his OC and I'll still guarantee you that he'll throw for more than 3-4 interceptions.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:19 pm to AlaTiger
How does anyone think Lee is a net positive for this team is beyond me. This makes us more one-dimensional.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:22 pm to TigerB8
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Still had 2000 yards passing while getting slammed constantly playing behind a shitty o-line and that D was awful. Lee has never been given a shot at redemption and JJ is constantly forgiven for any mistake he makes.
How can you honestly say he's never been given a shot at redemption? He's had plenty of chances.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:22 pm to bubbaprohn
He's thrown 89 passes for every 1 interception, and he hasn't played a full game in almost a season and a half.
It's a lot different coming in for a series or two during a game than it is having to throw for a whole game with the defense switching up on you and the game situation constantly changing and the pressure constantly changing.
It's a lot different coming in for a series or two during a game than it is having to throw for a whole game with the defense switching up on you and the game situation constantly changing and the pressure constantly changing.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:25 pm to coldhotwings
Kragthorpe is a pro-style OC. He coached that at Tulsa and also coached that at UL with Brohm his senior year where they had a top 6 national offense.
JJ did add an extra dimension in the running game, but greatly limited the passing game. Outside of the INTs, we moved the ball with Lee on offense as the starter in 2008, and ran it pretty damn effectively seeing as Scott had over 1,000 yards that season.
If you think LSU was running the same offense as last year, you are delusional.
JJ did add an extra dimension in the running game, but greatly limited the passing game. Outside of the INTs, we moved the ball with Lee on offense as the starter in 2008, and ran it pretty damn effectively seeing as Scott had over 1,000 yards that season.
If you think LSU was running the same offense as last year, you are delusional.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:43 pm to Geaux2002
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If you think LSU was running the same offense as last year, you are delusional.
Did I mention anywhere that I think LSU is running the same offense? I said there is no telling what will be run with a new coordinator.
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Kragthorpe is a pro-style OC. He coached that at Tulsa and also coached that at UL with Brohm his senior year where they had a top 6 national offense.
Most can agree that he will run pro-style but there is no way to pin-point his tendencies without having seen it with our players. Tulsa personnel =/= Louisville personnel =/= LSU personnel. I can't see Troy Calhoun coming into to LSU and running 50% triple option with the type of personnel LSU has.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:44 pm to MightierThePenIs
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Says the guy still wondering if his wife thinks about her old boyfriends...
Says the guy who is in denial about his wife cheating on him 7 times in 3 months a few years ago...
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