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Arguments against firing Crowton (and why they are stupid)
Posted on 10/28/10 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 10/28/10 at 5:56 pm
1) "Hiring a new OC would waste a year for the new OC to implement his system"
"Wasting a year" would mean less offensive production. But our offense could not get any worse than it is now, and it does not really take a whole year to adjust to a new OC. Look at Auburn: In Gus Malzhan's first year (09 season), Auburn increased its offensive production massively.
2) "Its not Crowton's fault, its the QB play"
While our QBs have struggled this year, particularly Jefferson, it is obvious that some of the struggles are due to shitty play calling. JJ gets blamed for a lot of 3 and outs, but its hard to get the first down when you call 5-yard routes on 3rd & 7. Crowton also doesn't give his QBs any chance to prove they can throw downfield effectively. Against the worst pass defense in the SEC last week we hardly ever tried to throw it deep. In addition, Crowton doesn't call plays that go along with JJ's ability. We could have Ryan Mallett under center and Crowton would still be calling options to the short side of the field.
"Wasting a year" would mean less offensive production. But our offense could not get any worse than it is now, and it does not really take a whole year to adjust to a new OC. Look at Auburn: In Gus Malzhan's first year (09 season), Auburn increased its offensive production massively.
2) "Its not Crowton's fault, its the QB play"
While our QBs have struggled this year, particularly Jefferson, it is obvious that some of the struggles are due to shitty play calling. JJ gets blamed for a lot of 3 and outs, but its hard to get the first down when you call 5-yard routes on 3rd & 7. Crowton also doesn't give his QBs any chance to prove they can throw downfield effectively. Against the worst pass defense in the SEC last week we hardly ever tried to throw it deep. In addition, Crowton doesn't call plays that go along with JJ's ability. We could have Ryan Mallett under center and Crowton would still be calling options to the short side of the field.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 5:58 pm to benhamin5555
Don't waste your breath (well, fingers)
Anybody who wants to retain Crowton isn't worth dignifying. The dude is a total fricking disgrace.
Anybody who wants to retain Crowton isn't worth dignifying. The dude is a total fricking disgrace.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 6:02 pm to Navytiger74
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Its not Crowton's fault, its the QB play
And who is supposed to coach the QBs?
Posted on 10/28/10 at 6:05 pm to benhamin5555
Possible Options for 2011
1. Keep Crowton, start Mettenberger
2. Fire Crowton, start Lee/Jefferson
3. Fire Crowton, start Mettenberger
Chances are good that one of these solutions will put us exactly where we are now, one of them will somehow make us look worse, and one will improve us dramatically.
Any guesses on which is which?
1. Keep Crowton, start Mettenberger
2. Fire Crowton, start Lee/Jefferson
3. Fire Crowton, start Mettenberger
Chances are good that one of these solutions will put us exactly where we are now, one of them will somehow make us look worse, and one will improve us dramatically.
Any guesses on which is which?
Posted on 10/28/10 at 6:06 pm to chilge1
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Chances are good that one of these solutions will put us exactly where we are now, one of them will somehow make us look worse, and one will improve us dramatically.
Any guesses on which is which?
I think 2, but I'm assuming you meant 3.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 6:07 pm to chilge1
no way someone can justify keeping him
Posted on 10/28/10 at 6:07 pm to Navytiger74
I have yet to formulate an opinion. I haven't seen Mettenberger play.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 6:09 pm to chilge1
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I have yet to formulate an opinion. I haven't seen Mettenberger play.
Same here. And I'm always reluctant to latch on to the next quarterback Savior. Newton is the first one of those to work out in a few years. Brantley was supposed to light it up for Florida, but he's little better than JJ was last year. Of course, JJ wasn't bad for a first year starter.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 6:13 pm to Navytiger74
Maybe a new coordinator w/ somewhat of a clue comes in here and JJ/JL and Mett benefit from it.
I'm all for Mett being the guy in 2012 and 13.
If he takes the job in 11......then that's ok too.
I'm all for Mett being the guy in 2012 and 13.
If he takes the job in 11......then that's ok too.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 7:14 pm to chilge1
Anyone who thinks starting a QB they have never seen, paired with an OC with a new system they don't even know of....and predicting vast improvement is kinda crazy.
So I can only think it is fire crowton start jl/jj.
So I can only think it is fire crowton start jl/jj.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 7:37 pm to benhamin5555
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1) "Hiring a new OC would waste a year for the new OC to implement his system"
This is by far the most common thing you hear and there is really nothing backing it up.
You also hear a lot of "It'll damage the recruiting class" Maybe it does and maybe it won't but does it really matter? The guy can't do anything with the elite talent that we have.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 7:48 pm to tigerfoot
If Crowton is fired, then any QB on scholarship would be on equal footing. If Mett could come in here and prove to be the best option, then he needs to be the starter. Same goes for JJ or JL.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 8:51 pm to Me4Heisman
same guys posting the same shite! 
Posted on 10/28/10 at 8:52 pm to ZereauxSum
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You also hear a lot of "It'll damage the recruiting class" Maybe it does and maybe it won't but does it really matter? The guy can't do anything with the elite talent that we have.
You never that in regards to firing Crowton. You hear that about firing Miles.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 8:53 pm to benhamin5555
Last week the qb didn't have time to hand it off must less go deep.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 8:54 pm to ZTiger87
2) "Its not Crowton's fault, its the QB play"
bull shite
bull shite
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