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re: Let's discuss Bioshock Infinite (Spoilers)

Posted on 8/7/13 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by JombieZombie
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 9:49 pm to
I find the combat satisfying and understand why some don't, but Bioshock games have never been about the action. Like I said, I hate the combat in the original, but the story and characters are always enough to draw me in. No need in trying to be innovative for the sake of innovation.

To each their own about the amount of combat in the game, but it gets pretty irrelevant later in the game because you're overpowered as frick and takes no time to dispatch enemies. I agree that their should have been more sidequests in the game that didn't involve combat.

The first part of Burial at Sea involves Booker exploring and involves little combat, and the Elizabeth section is more stealth based/survival horror. Irrational probably listened to complaints.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 9:59 pm
Posted by DieDaily
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 9:58 pm to
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the story and characters are always enough to draw me in.


Agreed. The multi-layered story, characters, and captivating world totally drew me in. And even if the combat's not awesome, at least it's not taking place in a post-apocalyptic landscape like 99% of the games out there.

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it gets pretty irrelevant later in the game because you're overpowered as frick and takes no time to dispatch enemies.


Outside of the final "protect the ship" battle, I agree. I had the pants on (or whatever) that allowed vigor affects to spread from one enemy to another on death. So, I'd shock or ignite an enemy, shoot him in the head and it would spread to all his friends. Lather, rinse, repeat.

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The first part of Burial at Sea involves Booker exploring and involves little combat, and the Elizabeth section is more stealth based/survival horror. Irrational probably listened to complaints.


I hadn't heard this about "Burial at Sea" but I hope it's true.
Posted by JombieZombie
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:01 pm to
Check it out, it sounds like what fans have been asking for in terms of combat, story and exploration variety. It looks amazing.

Levine on DLC
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 10:28 pm
Posted by DieDaily
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:07 pm to
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Check it out, it sounds like what fans have been asking for in terms of combat, story and exploration variety. It looks amazing.


I will. Thanks! Have you played Minerva's Den, the DLC for Bioshock 2?

I've been toying with the idea of playing Bioshock 2 for the first time, despite it being made by a different team and its mixed reviews, but I've heard that Minerva's Den is pretty awesome and only about 3 or 4 hours long.

After playing Infinite, I've got "the fever" for more Bioshock.
Posted by JombieZombie
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:30 pm to
I haven't played Minerva's Den, but Bioshock 2 is definitely worth a play. The story is OK but it has a great villain and environments.
Posted by DieDaily
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:37 pm to
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Here's an old thread on reddit that gives you a good synopsis of everything


Thanks for posting this because I hadn't seen it. Just got done reading through all 3 parts.

One thing it didn't mention was the idea that Comstock/Booker may also be Andrew Ryan/Jack from the original Bioshock. It's stated in Bioshock that once the bathysphere's are on lock down in Rapture, Andrew Ryan (or someone with his DNA) is the only person who can use them. Your character in Bioshock, Jack, is implied to be a clone of Ryan, which is why it worked for him in the beginning of that game. It is an important detail that Elizabeth has Booker activate the bathysphere to get them to the surface above Rapture after you teleport there.

The idea that Columbia and Rapture are different manifestations of the same place is present in the story but it never overtly states this theory that these characters might be the same person on at least a genetic level.

Just more fun stuff to think about.
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