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re: How many Americans have actually died from COVID-19?

Posted on 3/3/21 at 9:11 am to
Posted by ChipDiamond
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 9:11 am to
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If that many people, even with comorbidities were dying we would see a signifcant rise in deaths. We havent seen that.


Really? Here are all deaths in LA. You can clearly see that we are way over the normal average death rate.



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Looking at raw numbers, before 2020 came along, there are X numbers of Americans who die each year, from various causes...like heart disease, strokes, Parkinson’s, kidney disease, influenza/pneumonia, COPD, diabetes, hypertension, etc. Looking at 2020, and the obscene numbers of deaths attributed to Covid, and the absence of the annual X numbers of deaths from the other causes normally reported as such, one must be left to conclude that the usual causes are the main cause for death.


Here's the whole US death rate from 2017 through Jan of 2021. There is an obvious spike in total deaths that goes well beyond the average, and it coincides with the waves of covid cases.



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Medicare has been paying bounties to hospitals and med centers for each death attributed to Covid.


Medicare doesn't pay a hospital based on how death is coded on a death certificate. It pays the hospital based on the care/equipment/medicine that was used/documented in the persons chart while the person was alive in the hospital.

It's a lot more expensive to be put on a ventilator than not - and the average length of stay for someone who is put on a ventilator can be weeks longer than someone who isn't on a vent. Every day in the hospital costs more, too. It's also lot more expensive to stay in the ICU than a general bed. Just a few examples of many.
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