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re: The trope Confederates were traitors is bullshite
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:14 pm to Paul Maul number 37
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:14 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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Wrong again. The proclamation ONLY applied to the slave states in rebellion. Five slave states, Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, Missouri, and Tennessee were not affected by it. In addition, there were Union occupied areas of Louisiana that were not affected as well as the area making up the state of West Virginia.
I didn't say the Proclimation freed all the slaves, ever heard of the 13th Amendment?
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Are you a total idiot? Slavery existed in the United States of America from it's founding until 1865. That's a total of 76 years under the US flag. It only existed under the Confederate flag for 4 years. Your 400 year number is a total joke. Take your stupidity and shove it where the sun don't shine.
Yes, Slavery preceded the CSA but it was the CSA who split the union and attacked the USA in order to "Preserve" it.
Just facts bro, oh and GFY.
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 8:15 am to More&Les
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I didn't say the Proclimation freed all the slaves, ever heard of the 13th Amendment?
Did you ever hear of the Lincoln assassination? He was dead long before the passage of the thirteenth Amendment. Also, the original Thirteenth Amendment had been proposed in 1861 by Ohio's Representative Thomas Corwin that would have protected and maintained the institution of slavery wherever it existed within the United States at that time. As far as I can tell, Ohio is a NORTHERN state. All of the northern states voted FOR this proposed amendment yet NONE of the Southern states voted for it. They STILL seceded from the union. This alone should tell you that the secession had nothing to do with "keeping" slavery.
This alone should tell anyone that the North did not invade the South to "free" the slaves. They wanted their economic slave, the entire South, to continue bending over and taking it up the arse from their robber barron northern neighbors.
The facts show you and your type to be nothing but ignorant fools towing the party line. We, who have common sense and brains, don't have to listen to your crap. Keep talking. You have bad breath.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 8:18 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:40 am to More&Les
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Yes, Slavery preceded the CSA but it was the CSA who split the union and attacked the USA in order to "Preserve" it.
Why did they have to "preserve" it? It was already legal in the US. Lincoln couldn't touch it and he stated that he would not touch it where it existed. That is the reason that the Emancipation Proclamation only covered areas in rebellion. The Confederates could have saved slavery simply by laying down their arms and rejoining the union. Hell the Union even offered an amendment to make it permanent if the South would agree not to leave the Union. Ever heard of The Ghost Amendment? It was endorsed by President Buchanan.
The South's two main issues at the time were:
1. Lincolns opposition of allowing slavery in the new territories.
2. Morrill Tariff
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 11:08 am
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