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re: Why can every other first world country have healthcare for all?

Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:14 am to
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15178 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:14 am to
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CRNAs pretend to be equivalent/better than anesthesiologists, DNPs pretend to be better than/equivalent to internists/family physicians/pediatricians.

NPs now subspecialize. They wear white coats. They lobby (successfully!) for increased prescriptive/diagnostic/therapeutic and political power.


This, in a nutshell, is what caused me to lose faith in government.
You have a board of medicine? Good. Let them decide how medicine works.
So you get a "nursing" board to define the "scope" of nursing as whatever they damn well please and lobby the hell out of the legislature to get an unchecked power, which they then go and grant to anyone who gets an online degree which proudly shares copies of tests and plagiarised papers on their Facebook groups.

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It is over. Within 2 or 3 generations there will be no recognizable system inclusive of MDs unless we are talking only of massive tertiary/quarternary care academic university hospitals.


I think they (nursing association and boards) screwed up and let the pendulum swing a bit too far to one side with resulting backlash coming in the future. It would not totally surprise me if you are right. But it also wouldn't surprise me to see either a political or social trend back towards MD/DO in the next generation as far, far too many NPs around here don't know their arse from a hole in the ground when they graduate which will lead to quantifiably worse care over the coming years.


But it's a mess and it's only going to get worse.
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:20 am to
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far too many NPs around here don't know their arse from a hole in the ground when they graduate which will lead to quantifiably worse care over the coming years.


But it's a mess and it's only going to get worse.


I wish I could make lay people understand what you and I know.

In my state: CRNAs want independence.

The stories I could tell over the course of my career would horrify this forum.

But I know NO one would set foot on a plane without the highly trained, educated, and experienced CAPTAIN onboard.

And yet, when it comes to your surgery: frick the captain, we don't need that guy.... /s.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 1:21 am
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