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re: Can someone please explain the recent Obamacare ruling?

Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:54 am to
Posted by Muthsera
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:54 am to
This ruling will almost certainly be overturned on appeal, and I assume the USSC will refuse to hear it.

The lack of the individual mandate has no bearing on Medicaid expansion funding, allowing adults to stay on their parents plans, or regulations about which preventative measures must be covered as part of a plan.

The individual mandate was just about subsidizing cost for pre-existing conditions and retaining profit for insurance companies. There was a whole lot more shite in the law that a $0 penalty has no effect on.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:59 am to
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The lack of the individual mandate has no bearing on Medicaid expansion funding, allowing adults to stay on their parents plans, or regulations about which preventative measures must be covered as part of a plan.

The individual mandate was just about subsidizing cost for pre-existing conditions and retaining profit for insurance companies. There was a whole lot more shite in the law that a $0 penalty has no effect on.



Other argument - and one that is likely to carry the day - is that by reducing the penalty to $0 (not actually repealing the mandate), but leaving other parts of the law intact, they created a different statute.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99845 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:59 am to
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This ruling will almost certainly be overturned on appeal,


unlikely, especially in the 5th Circuit

the judge based his ruling on the majority opinion in the Sebelius case.

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I assume the USSC will refuse to hear it


they will have to hear it, especially since you can expect a "quickie" ruling out of the 9th or 3rd saying the opposite.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 11:00 am to
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There was a whole lot more shite in the law that a $0 penalty has no effect on.


True, except, if IIRC, the ACA has no severability clause regarding the mandate. Something Congress probably should have thought of before passing it. Guess they should have read it.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 11:01 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 11:01 am to
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The lack of the individual mandate has no bearing on Medicaid expansion funding, allowing adults to stay on their parents plans, or regulations about which preventative measures must be covered as part of a plan. The individual mandate was just about subsidizing cost for pre-existing conditions and retaining profit for insurance companies. There was a whole lot more shite in the law that a $0 penalty has no effect on.


read up on severability clauses...and the absence of one in the ACA
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