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Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:19 pm to
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You did say I was confused, as though I didn't know the difference between the socialist and communist phases.


You stated that Socialism was not totalitarian. That’s objectively wrong.




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In the common parlance, Marxism generally refers to the socialist phase, and not the communist one.


I disagree.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:39 pm to
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You stated that Socialism was not totalitarian. That’s objectively wrong.



No, I said Marxism was authoritarian, which it is in its socialist phase, and explicitly so. You said it was totalitarian. I've never used the word in this thread.

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I disagree.



For many Marxist thinkers like Gramsci, Negri, the various French philosophers who have written about Marxism, and the numerous Marxist Feminists, nearly all of them speak of Marxism in its socialist phase, and not the communist (and also utopian) version. Even Structural Marxists and Humanistic Marxists were obsessed with the state power, and the conditions of revolution, rather than the post-revolutionary world. Because the socialist phase is focused on revolutions, it was the primary concern of Leninists and Left-Communists as well. In general, modern Marxists are concerned with the socialist phase.
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