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Posted on 7/23/18 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/23/18 at 11:14 pm to
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Anyone know of a way to put my cable box through to Plex so I can watch cable tv anywhere? I assume it can't be done.



There are a few options. The first and easiest is a Sling box. You should probably look at the Slingbox m2 (component) or 500 (HDMI) and stop reading. Production was halted, but they continue to support the product and the streaming service is still working without planned stoppage of support. They even dropped the fee for the mobile app a year or so ago in favor of using some ads.


More complicated:
You say "cable" box. Assuming you have cable (and not Google Fiber, AT&T u-verse, LUS fiber in Lafayette...), you can buy an HDHomerun Prime and rent a cable card directly from your cable company for <$5m. They must give it to you- it's an FCC violation for them not to. There are a few options for live streaming the channels. I think Plex may allow this, but Emby has been doing this a while pretty well-being you need a computer with it installed (it's essentially the same idea as Plex, but it's a different open-source community's product). It's free. They offer a "plus" version with monthly, annual, and lifetime contributions similar to PlexPass.
A bit more in-depth, some to all channels will be copy protected. You may not be able to access them through the streaming software. You can view them all anywhere in the house with a computer running Windows Media Center. There's even a crowd focused on making Media Center compatible with Win10. Silicondust (the people who make HDHomerun) are working to get their software Cablelabs certified. Their community has held their breath something near or over 2 years now. I don't believe it natively allows out of network access.
I can confirm that using this with a CableCard works with Emby to be able to stream at pretty good quality remotely on nonprotected channels. Without the "premium" Emby, you must find your computer's public IP to access it, but it's available in the free version, and this is a fairly easy thing to get around (one quick example would be a free remote software like TeamViewer and googling "what is my IP?" when your last known public IP stops working.


A little bit even more complicated- and I'm actually going to be attempting this in the next week-
Hauppauge makes a piece of hardware which comes in PCIe (Colossus 2) and USB (hd-PVR2) forms. It has HDMI and component input. It supports 1080p @30hz (I believe) inputs. It also has Toslink input if you're using the component input so you can still get 5.1 channel sound.
Support is tricky, but theoretically you should be able to use a handful of (free) programs to use it as an input for, again, Emby (my choice...may look into Plex before this is all done) to view the input of your cable box. The card has an IR in/out port which will allow you to 1) control the computer functions 2) have the card tell the cable box to change the channel

There are a few problems with these last two. Namely, you need guide data for it to be really useful. Easy way to get it: Windows Media center. It's free. Problem: Colossus 2 isn't really supported under WMC. So you're stuck with actually writing a little code to download from your provider's website or Zap2it and transform it to a usable input (difficult) or paying $30/yr for Schedules Direct. I believe there is an additional pay-for-data service that isn't pricey and, in my opinion, totally worth it.


There are a ton of people using Colossus and WMC to view their DirecTV boxes on their computer. There are fewer instances looking online of people posting about the Colossus 2. What I've never found was someone actually using this input to broadcast to themselves on Emby (or Plex. Again. Not certain if this is supported) and posting about it.


I'll be happy to update once I've tried if you're interested.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15022 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:30 am to
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I'll be happy to update once I've tried if you're interested.




I'll just go ahead and update you anyway.


quote:

Anyone know of a way to put my cable box through to Plex so I can watch cable tv anywhere? I assume it can't be done.


You are correct. You cannot get your cable box to go through Plex. It is unsupported because they aren't supporting other PVR backends.

So, I've painstakingly installed a Hauppauge Colossus 2 into a Win10 machine (fm1 board, a8-3870k chip, no gpu, I believe 8gb RAM, 512gb ssd with all the recording being done on 3x 4tb HDDs in a Windows Storage Space. The live TV buffer is on the SSD).
Installed hardware.
HDMI from cable box---> splitter to strip HDCP (wouldn't work otherwise)
Downloaded drivers and proprietary application (winTv 8.5)
Downloaded NextPVR
Downloaded IRSS (IR server suite from MediaPortal)
Never got Hauppauge blaster software working despite trying.
Had an old Windows Media Center IR receiver with 2 blasters- instantly recognized by IRSS
Ran "translator" and taught it my cable box (Arris VIP 2102)'s 0-9, Channel up/down commands, then followed the rest of this marvelous guide to get the WMC device to control my cable box's channel

Now that NextPVR is setup, you can allow streaming within the settings, type in the IP address of the computer with the default port (8866), if you haven't changed it.

This also works using the Emby DVR. Now, I am a bit confused- the Emby DVR did not seem to recognize my Hauppauge cards out of the gate. Perhaps I didn't update it and restart as quickly as I should have. That would have saved a lot of headache if that's the case. In either event, this will absolutely work to stream remotely from a browser IF you are careful only to tune to what the PC that is acting as the server is tuned to. If the PC that is serving it up isn't watching, it should work fine anywhere else (I use a PC as my main viewing device, if It's tuned to Channel 2 and I tune NextPVR or Emby clients on another PC in the house, Next PVR will fail and say the transcoding was ended/aborted/stopped by the server. Emby will just hang indefinitely).

Also, I wait about 10 seconds for the server/HTPC to give an actual output from the card over HDMI. Have not tried component.



The GOOD news is that I'm actually replacing this all in about a week with my real HTPC when I finish moving in, and this was just a proof of concept.



So I stick with my initial statement:
You probably want a Slingbox.
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