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re: A fresh "reluctant Trump voter" article from the badly failing NY Times
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:09 am to themunch
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:09 am to themunch
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Do not do that. Be a brother.
You do realize that drinking wine with a meal is as culturally acceptable in many countries as drinking ice tea is here?
Even in biblical times, Paul, encouraged believes to drink a little wine to help with health issues.
I think many Christians have unduly placed a stigma on wine that should have never been placed.
The Bible only warns about excessive drinking and being drunk.
Colossians 2:16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day--
17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind,
19 and not holding fast to the head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God.
20 ¶ If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as,
21 "Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!"
22 (which all refer to things destined to perish with use)--in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men?
23 These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 9:18 am
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:40 am to Revelator
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Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink
The world does
You know this
Oh I do realize that drinking wine with a meal is culturally acceptable.
Drinking is fine as long as you are not a lush at it. I am to be of sober mind. So I am. Carry on my young brother.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 9:47 am
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:25 am to Revelator
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You do realize that drinking wine with a meal is as culturally acceptable in many countries as drinking ice tea is here?
Even in biblical times, Paul, encouraged believes to drink a little wine to help with health issues.
I think many Christians have unduly placed a stigma on wine that should have never been placed.
The Bible only warns about excessive drinking and being drunk.
I agree with all you are saying. I would add to that the following:
Jesus turned water into wine, not the other way around. If wine was a biblical nono then that certainly would not have happened.
Wine consumption was far safer (in ancient times) than water in many locations. The alcohol would negate some of the bacteria and other bad things that could be consumed.
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