re: So when do we actually start giving O some credit?

16-5? O is 21-7 his three previous HC seasons. winning 75% of his games on teams that he hadn't built yet is impressive, but it doesn't tell me anything yet. We still don't know yet how a Coach O built team is going to play. we'll start seeing it next season and 2019 will be his true test. You can't base much off of this season because most of the team is not built by him outside of the offense because he hired Matt Canada. It's never too late to get behind your coach, though, because he'll be here a few more years at least.